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  • @mudfly said:

    Ironically, just read an article at NFL . com about who the real DBU is.....here's a link.....GREAT article!!!!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000494312/article/which-school-is-db-u-ohio-state-miami-lead-top-contenders

    Nice.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #52

    @wargograw said:

    Nice.

    On the Miami vs. Ohio St. DB issue, since the 1970 draft Ohio St. has had the following DBs make at least 1 Pro Bowl:

    Jack Tatum

    Tim Fox

    Todd Bell

    Shaun Gayle

    Shawn Springs

    Antoine Winfield

    Nate Clements

    Donte Whitner

    Miami has has the following make a Pro Bowl:

    Fred Marion

    Bennie Blades

    Ryan McNeil

    Tremain Mack

    Ed Reed

    Sean Taylor

    Antrelle Rolle

    Brandon Meriweather

    Compare: in the same 45 years, Alabama has had one single DB make a Pro Bowl: Roman Harper.

    USC has had 5: Dennis Smith, Ronnie Lott, Joey Browner, Mark Carrier, Polamalu

    Florida: 2: Lito Sheppard and Joe Haden

    FSU: JT Thomas, Deion Sanders, Leroy Butler, Samari Roll, Chris Hope, Antonio Cromartie.

    Michigan: Thom Darden, Dave Brown, Keith Bostic, Ty Law, Charles Woodson

  • @the-gipper said:

    They have had good RBs, true. Not much else. Those two are the only 2 OK St. players in the HOF.

    Edit: I will take that back. OK St. has produced some very good defensive linemen: Kevin Williams, Jamal Williams, Leslie O'Neal and Jerry Sherk. None HOF at this point though K. Williams may have an outside shot. O'Neal was borderline.

    Dez Bryant is well on his way. Russell Okung is doing his thing in Seattle. R.W McQuarters was a hell of a returner in the NFL. Durrant Williams was a hell of a player for Denver before tragically passing away. Parrish Cox and Brandon Pettigrew are still in the NFL. I had high hopes for Reshaun Woods, Justin Blackmon, and Tatum Bell but they all ran into some issues in the NFL. And you can't forget the "brillance" of Weeden either.

    Not half bad for an overshadowed wrestling school.

    Edit: I can't believe I forgot about Josh Fields. He was a hell of a QB but ended up playing baseball. He would've been good.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #53

    @taco918 said:

    Dez Bryant is well on his way. Russell Okung is doing his thing in Seattle. R.W McQuarters was a hell of a returner in the NFL. Durrant Williams was a hell of a player for Denver before tragically passing away. Parrish Cox and Brandon Pettigrew are still in the NFL. I had high hopes for Reshaun Woods, Justin Blackmon, and Tatum Bell but they all ran into some issues in the NFL. And you can't forget the "brillance" of Weeden either.

    Not half bad for an overshadowed wrestling school.

    I would say, yes about half bad. In terms of producing the most quality NFL players, they are far down the list. In fact, here are the Top 25 schools in terms of producing Pro Bowl seasons from their players:

    1. USC

    2. Notre Dame

    3. Miami

    4. Ohio St.

    5. Tennessee

    6. Pitt

    7. Michigan St

    8. Michigan

    9. Penn St.

    10. Texas

    11. Georgia

    12. Purdue

    13. Arizona St.

    14. UCLA

    15. LSU

    16. Alabama

    17. Syracuse

    18. Texas A&M

    19. Cal

    20. Nebraska

    21. Iowa

    22. Minnesota

    23. Florida St.

    24. Oklahoma

    25. Oregon

    OK St. is #43...just 2 notches above Northwestern

    (and....oh, yeah....the reigning NCAA Wrestling National Champions: The Ohio State University)

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Pitt's NFL production is always crazy.

  • My other alma mater... Youngstown State University... not exactly the most feared of teams...

    QB - Ron Jaworski

    QB - Cliff Stoudt (Started 1 year for Pit, 9-6 record in 1983, 8-year career)

    WR - Bobby Jones (6 career TDs in 6-year career with Jets and Browns)

    WR - Donald Jones (3-year career in Buffalo, made 10 starts in 2012)

    TE - Craig Cotton (6-year career in early 70s)

    G - Lamar Mady (current backup G for the Raiders)

    K - Jeff Wilkins (14-year career, including one Pro Bowl)

    LB - Tim Johnson (played 6 years in the early 00s, had 0.5 sacks)

    CB - Brandian Ross (current backup SS for the Raiders, started 10 games in 2014)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #55

    @thenew23 said:

    My other alma mater... Youngstown State University... not exactly the most feared of teams...

    QB - Ron Jaworski

    QB - Cliff Stoudt (Started 1 year for Pit, 9-6 record in 1983, 8-year career)

    WR - Bobby Jones (6 career TDs in 6-year career with Jets and Browns)

    WR - Donald Jones (3-year career in Buffalo, made 10 starts in 2012)

    TE - Craig Cotton (6-year career in early 70s)

    G - Lamar Mady (current backup G for the Raiders)

    K - Jeff Wilkins (14-year career, including one Pro Bowl)

    LB - Tim Johnson (played 6 years in the early 00s, had 0.5 sacks)

    CB - Brandian Ross (current backup SS for the Raiders, started 10 games in 2014)

    My other alma mater is Cleveland St.......and no football program.

    If I used my kids schools....well...Kenyon had all of 2 players ever play i the NFL....but Trinity did have 2 players make a Pro Bowl (and a 1st round pick of the Cleveland Browns).

    And my sons other school....the best players to come out of there were a kicker, Pete Gogolak,and Ed Marinaro....who may be better known as an actor on Hill Street Blues.

  • Pitt's NFL production is always crazy.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #56

    @wargograw said:

    Pitt's NFL production is always crazy.

    My number relates "Pro Bowl seasons" by players from that school, not individual players. And while Pitt has produced as many players as some schools, they have produced some of the most productive,

    Like Marino, Dorsett, Curtis Martin, Doleman, Rickey Jackson, Darrelle Revis going strong, Stepnoski, Fralic, Grimm, Covert, Ditka...and even the jealous bastard Mark May.

  • thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
    #57

    I guess since they have had the most players in the NFL and the HOF, somebody should do a USC roster:

    QB - Bill Nelsen (1 X Pro Bowler), barely beats out Pat Haden b/c of longer career and better QB Rating

    RB - Marcus Allen (HOF)

    RB - OJ Simpson (HOF)

    WR - Keyshawn Johnson (3X Pro bowler, 10,500 career receiving yards)

    WR - Lynn Swann (HOF)

    OFS - Frank Gifford (HOF)

    TE - Morris (Red) Badgro (HOF)

    OL - Bruce Matthews (HOF)

    OL - Anthony Munoz (HOF)

    OL - Ron Mix (HOF)

    OL - Ron Yary (HOF)

    OL - Ryan Kalil (4X Pro Bowler, and counting)

    DL - Darrell Russell (2X Pro Bowler)

    DL - Mike Patterson

    DL - Willie McGinest (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Junior Seau (HOF)

    LB - Clay Matthews (4X Pro Bowler, HOF semi-finalist)

    LB - Rod Martin (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Chip Banks (4X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Ronnie Lott (HOF)

    DB - Willie Wood (HOF)

    DB - Tim McDonald (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Dennis Smith (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Troy Polamalu (8X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Joey Browner (6X Pro Bowler)

  • @wargograw said:

    Pitt's NFL production is always crazy.

    My number relates "Pro Bowl seasons" by players from that school, not individual players. And while Pitt has produced as many players as some schools, they have produced some of the most productive,

    Like Marino, Dorsett, Curtis Martin, Doleman, Rickey Jackson, Darrelle Revis going strong, Stepnoski, Fralic, Grimm, Covert, Ditka...and even the jealous bastard Mark May.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #58

    @the-gipper said:

    My number relates "Pro Bowl seasons" by players from that school, not individual players. And while Pitt has produced as many players as some schools, they have produced some of the most productive,

    Like Marino, Dorsett, Curtis Martin, Doleman, Rickey Jackson, Darrelle Revis going strong, Stepnoski, Fralic, Grimm, Covert, Ditka...and even the jealous bastard Mark May.

    Yep. Plus Fitzgerald.

  • That is another Greg Lloyd right? Not the former Steeler LB?

    SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
    #59

    @the-gipper said:

    That is another Greg Lloyd right? Not the former Steeler LB?

    It's actually Greg Lloyd, Jr. - the son of former Steeler LB Greg Lloyd.

  • I guess since they have had the most players in the NFL and the HOF, somebody should do a USC roster:

    QB - Bill Nelsen (1 X Pro Bowler), barely beats out Pat Haden b/c of longer career and better QB Rating

    RB - Marcus Allen (HOF)

    RB - OJ Simpson (HOF)

    WR - Keyshawn Johnson (3X Pro bowler, 10,500 career receiving yards)

    WR - Lynn Swann (HOF)

    OFS - Frank Gifford (HOF)

    TE - Morris (Red) Badgro (HOF)

    OL - Bruce Matthews (HOF)

    OL - Anthony Munoz (HOF)

    OL - Ron Mix (HOF)

    OL - Ron Yary (HOF)

    OL - Ryan Kalil (4X Pro Bowler, and counting)

    DL - Darrell Russell (2X Pro Bowler)

    DL - Mike Patterson

    DL - Willie McGinest (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Junior Seau (HOF)

    LB - Clay Matthews (4X Pro Bowler, HOF semi-finalist)

    LB - Rod Martin (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Chip Banks (4X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Ronnie Lott (HOF)

    DB - Willie Wood (HOF)

    DB - Tim McDonald (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Dennis Smith (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Troy Polamalu (8X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Joey Browner (6X Pro Bowler)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #60

    @thenew23 said:

    I guess since they have had the most players in the NFL and the HOF, somebody should do a USC roster:

    QB - Bill Nelsen (1 X Pro Bowler), barely beats out Pat Haden b/c of longer career and better QB Rating

    RB - Marcus Allen (HOF)

    RB - OJ Simpson (HOF)

    WR - Keyshawn Johnson (3X Pro bowler, 10,500 career receiving yards)

    WR - Lynn Swann (HOF)

    OFS - Frank Gifford (HOF)

    TE - Morris (Red) Badgro (HOF)

    OL - Bruce Matthews (HOF)

    OL - Anthony Munoz (HOF)

    OL - Ron Mix (HOF)

    OL - Ron Yary (HOF)

    OL - Ryan Kalil (4X Pro Bowler, and counting)

    DL - Darrell Russell (2X Pro Bowler)

    DL - Mike Patterson

    DL - Willie McGinest (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Junior Seau (HOF)

    LB - Clay Matthews (4X Pro Bowler, HOF semi-finalist)

    LB - Rod Martin (2X Pro Bowler)

    LB - Chip Banks (4X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Ronnie Lott (HOF)

    DB - Willie Wood (HOF)

    DB - Tim McDonald (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Dennis Smith (6X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Troy Polamalu (8X Pro Bowler)

    DB - Joey Browner (6X Pro Bowler)

    Yea, pretty darn good. But would not perhaps Carson Palmer get the nod as best QB that school has produced? I am obviously a Bill Nelsen guy....but Palmer may have had the more productive career.

  • I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:

    QB Mike Tomsczak

    RB Eddie George

    WR Paul Warfield

    WR Chris Carter

    TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)

    OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)

    OT: Orlando Pace

    OT: Jim Tyrer

    OG William Roberts

    OG Doug Van Horn

    OC Nick Mangold

    DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs

    DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith

    DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett

    LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White

    P: Tom Tupa

    K: Lou Groza

    KR: Ted Ginn

    Second Team:

    QB Kent Graham

    RB Robert Smith

    WR Joey Galloway

    WR Dante Lavelli

    TE John Frank

    OSWC Keith Byars

    OT Dick Shafrath

    OT Jim Lachey

    OG Rob Sims

    OG Tim Vogler

    OC Kirk Lowdermilk

    DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner

    DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman

    DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward

    LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk

    K: Tim Nugent

    P: Tom Skladany

    KR: Neil Colzie

    Italics: HOF

    F Furious Styles wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @the-gipper said:

    I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:

    QB Mike Tomsczak

    RB Eddie George

    WR Paul Warfield

    WR Chris Carter

    TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)

    OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)

    OT: Orlando Pace

    OT: Jim Tyrer

    OG William Roberts

    OG Doug Van Horn

    OC Nick Mangold

    DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs

    DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith

    DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett

    LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White

    P: Tom Tupa

    K: Lou Groza

    KR: Ted Ginn

    Second Team:

    QB Kent Graham

    RB Robert Smith

    WR Joey Galloway

    WR Dante Lavelli

    TE John Frank

    OSWC Keith Byars

    OT Dick Shafrath

    OT Jim Lachey

    OG Rob Sims

    OG Tim Vogler

    OC Kirk Lowdermilk

    DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner

    DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman

    DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward

    LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk

    K: Tim Nugent

    P: Tom Skladany

    KR: Neil Colzie

    Italics: HOF

    FB Pete Johnson

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:

    QB Mike Tomsczak

    RB Eddie George

    WR Paul Warfield

    WR Chris Carter

    TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)

    OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)

    OT: Orlando Pace

    OT: Jim Tyrer

    OG William Roberts

    OG Doug Van Horn

    OC Nick Mangold

    DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs

    DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith

    DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett

    LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White

    P: Tom Tupa

    K: Lou Groza

    KR: Ted Ginn

    Second Team:

    QB Kent Graham

    RB Robert Smith

    WR Joey Galloway

    WR Dante Lavelli

    TE John Frank

    OSWC Keith Byars

    OT Dick Shafrath

    OT Jim Lachey

    OG Rob Sims

    OG Tim Vogler

    OC Kirk Lowdermilk

    DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner

    DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman

    DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward

    LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk

    K: Tim Nugent

    P: Tom Skladany

    KR: Neil Colzie

    Italics: HOF

    FB Pete Johnson

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @furious-styles said:

    FB Pete Johnson

    OK, but would either John Brockington or Matt Snell be considered Fullbacks? Brockington has a slightly higher CA than Pete. Snell not far behind.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #63

    and now, the real reason this thread was started:

    Michigan's All-NFL Roster:

    (I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)

    NFL Hall of Fame

    Offense:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)

    2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)

    3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)

    4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)

    OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)

    FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)

    TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)

    2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)

    3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)

    2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)

    3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)

    LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)

    2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)

    😄 1st - John Morrow (1956-1966)

    2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)

    3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)

    RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)

    2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)

    RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)

    2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)

    3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)

    Defense:

    LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)

    2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)

    DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)

    2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)

    RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)

    2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)

    Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.

    LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)

    2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)

    Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)

    MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)

    2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)

    3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard

    4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)

    ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)

    2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)

    3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)

    CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)

    2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)

    3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)

    4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)

    5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)

    FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)

    2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)

    SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)

    2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)

    Special Teams:

    K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)

    P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)

    KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)

    2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)

    Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh

    Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr

  • and now, the real reason this thread was started:

    Michigan's All-NFL Roster:

    (I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)

    NFL Hall of Fame

    Offense:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)

    2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)

    3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)

    4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)

    OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)

    FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)

    TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)

    2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)

    3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)

    2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)

    3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)

    LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)

    2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)

    😄 1st - John Morrow (1956-1966)

    2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)

    3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)

    RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)

    2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)

    RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)

    2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)

    3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)

    Defense:

    LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)

    2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)

    DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)

    2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)

    RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)

    2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)

    Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.

    LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)

    2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)

    Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)

    MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)

    2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)

    3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard

    4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)

    ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)

    2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)

    3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)

    CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)

    2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)

    3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)

    4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)

    5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)

    FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)

    2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)

    SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)

    2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)

    Special Teams:

    K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)

    P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)

    KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)

    2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)

    Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh

    Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #64

    @mld-woody said:

    and now, the real reason this thread was started:

    Michigan's All-NFL Roster:

    (I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)

    NFL Hall of Fame

    Offense:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)

    2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)

    3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)

    4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)

    OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)

    FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)

    TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)

    2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)

    3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)

    2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)

    3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)

    LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)

    2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)

    😄 1st - John Morrow (1956-1966)

    2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)

    3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)

    RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)

    2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)

    RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)

    2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)

    3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)

    Defense:

    LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)

    2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)

    DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)

    2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)

    RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)

    2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)

    Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.

    LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)

    2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)

    Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)

    MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)

    2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)

    3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard

    4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)

    ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)

    2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)

    3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)

    CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)

    2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)

    3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)

    4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)

    5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)

    FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)

    2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)

    SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)

    2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)

    Special Teams:

    K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)

    P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)

    KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)

    2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)

    Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh

    Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr

    A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.

    Zombo

  • @mld-woody said:

    and now, the real reason this thread was started:

    Michigan's All-NFL Roster:

    (I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)

    NFL Hall of Fame

    Offense:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)

    2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)

    3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)

    4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)

    OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)

    FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)

    TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)

    2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)

    3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)

    2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)

    3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)

    LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)

    2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)

    😄 1st - John Morrow (1956-1966)

    2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)

    3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)

    RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)

    2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)

    RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)

    2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)

    3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)

    Defense:

    LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)

    2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)

    DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)

    2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)

    RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)

    2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)

    Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.

    LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)

    2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)

    Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)

    MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)

    2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)

    3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard

    4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)

    ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)

    2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)

    3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)

    CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)

    2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)

    3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)

    4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)

    5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)

    FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)

    2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)

    SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)

    2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)

    Special Teams:

    K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)

    P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)

    KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)

    2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)

    Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh

    Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr

    A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.

    Zombo

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #65

    Zombo said:

    A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.

    Zombo

    There really isn't all "all star" WR in the group, but we could run 5 wide sets up and down the field.

    The OL would be great. Hopefully elite enough to get the average HBs going.

    It would really be all on Brady.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #66

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)


    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)


    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)


    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.


    Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)



    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)


    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)


    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)


    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)


    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)


    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)


    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)



    And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)


    Again...an issue of him playing long ago.



    I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed 😉


  • @mld-woody said:

    and now, the real reason this thread was started:

    Michigan's All-NFL Roster:

    (I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)

    NFL Hall of Fame

    Offense:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)

    2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)

    3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)

    4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)

    OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)

    FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)

    TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)

    2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)

    3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)

    2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)

    3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)

    LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)

    2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)

    😄 1st - John Morrow (1956-1966)

    2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)

    3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)

    RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)

    2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)

    RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)

    2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)

    3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)

    Defense:

    LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)

    2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)

    DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)

    2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)

    RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)

    2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)

    Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.

    LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)

    2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)

    Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)

    MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)

    2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)

    3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard

    4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)

    ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)

    2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)

    3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)

    CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)

    2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)

    3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)

    4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)

    5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)

    FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)

    2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)

    SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)

    2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)

    Special Teams:

    K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)

    P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)

    KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)

    2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)

    Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh

    Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr

    A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #67

    Zombo said:

    A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.

    Zombo

    I think he did about as good with what he had to work with. Choosing Hirsch would have helped him.

    (but, I guess that thing that Z is saying between the lines is: except at QB...compare the OSU vs. Mich. offensive skill players....OSU comes pretty far out ahead.....but....Quarterbacks matter.....now more than in Benny Friedman's day likely....so it hard to get around Brady....but then almos NONE of the other schools that ever played football have produced a QB as good as him. Arguable about Northwestern, Notre Dame, Tennessee or Louisville...but that's about it.)

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
    #68

    FWIW, about the only link between Imperial College and the NFL...

    http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_17-10-2013-10-55-42

  • QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)


    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)


    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)


    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.


    Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)



    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)


    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)


    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)


    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)


    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)


    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)


    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)



    And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)


    Again...an issue of him playing long ago.



    I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed 😉


    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #69

    @the-gipper said:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)

    Again...an issue of him playing long ago.

    I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed 😉

    I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions

  • @the-gipper said:

    QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)

    2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)

    3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)

    Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.

    Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)

    WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)

    2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)

    3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)

    4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)

    5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)

    6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)

    Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)

    And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)

    Again...an issue of him playing long ago.

    I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed 😉

    I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #70

    @mld-woody said:

    I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions

    That is true about Hirsch. He was sort of the Russell Wilson of his day. Two different schools are give credit for sending him to the pros.