All Time NFL Team from your favorite College
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I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:
QB Mike Tomsczak
RB Eddie George
WR Paul Warfield
WR Chris Carter
TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)
OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)
OT: Orlando Pace
OT: Jim Tyrer
OG William Roberts
OG Doug Van Horn
OC Nick Mangold
DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs
DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith
DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett
LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White
P: Tom Tupa
K: Lou Groza
KR: Ted Ginn
Second Team:
QB Kent Graham
RB Robert Smith
WR Joey Galloway
WR Dante Lavelli
TE John Frank
OSWC Keith Byars
OT Dick Shafrath
OT Jim Lachey
OG Rob Sims
OG Tim Vogler
OC Kirk Lowdermilk
DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner
DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman
DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward
LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk
K: Tim Nugent
P: Tom Skladany
KR: Neil Colzie
Italics: HOF
I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:
QB Mike Tomsczak
RB Eddie George
WR Paul Warfield
WR Chris Carter
TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)
OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)
OT: Orlando Pace
OT: Jim Tyrer
OG William Roberts
OG Doug Van Horn
OC Nick Mangold
DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs
DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith
DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett
LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White
P: Tom Tupa
K: Lou Groza
KR: Ted Ginn
Second Team:
QB Kent Graham
RB Robert Smith
WR Joey Galloway
WR Dante Lavelli
TE John Frank
OSWC Keith Byars
OT Dick Shafrath
OT Jim Lachey
OG Rob Sims
OG Tim Vogler
OC Kirk Lowdermilk
DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner
DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman
DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward
LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk
K: Tim Nugent
P: Tom Skladany
KR: Neil Colzie
Italics: HOF
FB Pete Johnson
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I guess we are going to pile them all into one thread...so be it. Here is the All Ohio State Pro team. Though I am not an alum, I have certainly followed them all my life and know them as well as anyone:
QB Mike Tomsczak
RB Eddie George
WR Paul Warfield
WR Chris Carter
TE Ricky Dudley (kind of a "Dud" position for the Buckeyes)
OSPWC: Tom Matte (played RB and QB at times)
OT: Orlando Pace
OT: Jim Tyrer
OG William Roberts
OG Doug Van Horn
OC Nick Mangold
DBs: Dick LeBeau, Jack Tatum, Antoine Winfield, Sean Springs
DEs: Jim Marshall, Will Smith
DTs: Bill Willis, Ryan Pickett
LBs: Randy Gradishar, Chris Spielman, Pepper Johnson, Stan White
P: Tom Tupa
K: Lou Groza
KR: Ted Ginn
Second Team:
QB Kent Graham
RB Robert Smith
WR Joey Galloway
WR Dante Lavelli
TE John Frank
OSWC Keith Byars
OT Dick Shafrath
OT Jim Lachey
OG Rob Sims
OG Tim Vogler
OC Kirk Lowdermilk
DBs: Nate Clements, Chris Gamble, Tim Fox, Donte Whitner
DTs Dan Wilkinson, Alonzo Spellman
DEs: Keith Ferguson, Cameron Heyward
LBs: Jim Houston, Bob Brudzinski, Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk
K: Tim Nugent
P: Tom Skladany
KR: Neil Colzie
Italics: HOF
FB Pete Johnson
FB Pete Johnson
OK, but would either John Brockington or Matt Snell be considered Fullbacks? Brockington has a slightly higher CA than Pete. Snell not far behind.
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and now, the real reason this thread was started:
Michigan's All-NFL Roster:
(I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)
NFL Hall of Fame
Offense:
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)
2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)
3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)
4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)
OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)
FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)
TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)
2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)
3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)
2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)
3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)
LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)
2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)
1st - John Morrow (1956-1966) 2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)
3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)
RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)
2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)
RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)
2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)
3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)
Defense:
LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)
2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)
Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)
DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)
2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)
RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)
2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)
Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.
LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)
2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)
Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)
MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)
2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)
3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard
4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)
ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)
2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)
3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)
CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)
2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)
3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)
4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)
5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)
FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)
2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)
SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)
2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)
Special Teams:
K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)
P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)
KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)
2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)
Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr
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and now, the real reason this thread was started:
Michigan's All-NFL Roster:
(I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)
NFL Hall of Fame
Offense:
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)
2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)
3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)
4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)
OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)
FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)
TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)
2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)
3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)
2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)
3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)
LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)
2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)
1st - John Morrow (1956-1966) 2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)
3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)
RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)
2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)
RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)
2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)
3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)
Defense:
LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)
2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)
Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)
DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)
2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)
RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)
2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)
Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.
LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)
2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)
Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)
MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)
2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)
3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard
4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)
ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)
2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)
3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)
CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)
2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)
3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)
4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)
5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)
FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)
2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)
SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)
2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)
Special Teams:
K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)
P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)
KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)
2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)
Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr
and now, the real reason this thread was started:
Michigan's All-NFL Roster:
(I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)
NFL Hall of Fame
Offense:
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)
2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)
3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)
4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)
OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)
FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)
TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)
2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)
3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)
2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)
3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)
LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)
2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)
1st - John Morrow (1956-1966) 2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)
3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)
RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)
2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)
RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)
2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)
3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)
Defense:
LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)
2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)
Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)
DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)
2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)
RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)
2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)
Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.
LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)
2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)
Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)
MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)
2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)
3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard
4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)
ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)
2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)
3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)
CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)
2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)
3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)
4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)
5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)
FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)
2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)
SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)
2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)
Special Teams:
K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)
P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)
KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)
2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)
Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr
A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.
Zombo
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and now, the real reason this thread was started:
Michigan's All-NFL Roster:
(I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)
NFL Hall of Fame
Offense:
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)
2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)
3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)
4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)
OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)
FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)
TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)
2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)
3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)
2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)
3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)
LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)
2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)
1st - John Morrow (1956-1966) 2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)
3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)
RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)
2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)
RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)
2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)
3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)
Defense:
LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)
2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)
Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)
DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)
2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)
RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)
2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)
Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.
LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)
2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)
Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)
MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)
2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)
3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard
4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)
ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)
2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)
3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)
CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)
2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)
3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)
4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)
5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)
FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)
2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)
SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)
2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)
Special Teams:
K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)
P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)
KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)
2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)
Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr
A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.
Zombo
Zombo said:
A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.
Zombo
There really isn't all "all star" WR in the group, but we could run 5 wide sets up and down the field.
The OL would be great. Hopefully elite enough to get the average HBs going.
It would really be all on Brady.
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QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)
Again...an issue of him playing long ago.
I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed
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and now, the real reason this thread was started:
Michigan's All-NFL Roster:
(I didn't include players that transferred an played a good amount of time at another college. Also, I tried to stay away from going back too many years)
NFL Hall of Fame
Offense:
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
HB: 1st - Ron Johnson (1969-1975)
2nd - Tyrone Wheatley (1995-2004)
3rd - Leroy Hoard (1990-1999)
4th - Anthony Thomas (2001-2007)
OW: 1st - Denard Robinson (2013-Present)
FB: 1st - BJ Askew (2003-2009)
TE: 1st - Ron Kramer (1957-1967)
2nd - Tony McGee (1993-2003)
3rd - Jay Riemersma (1997-2004)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
LT: 1st - Mike Kenn (1978-1994)
2nd - Jon Runyan (1996-2009)
3rd - Jake Long (2008-Present)
LG: 1st - Steve Hutchinson (2001-2012)
2nd - Jonathan Goodwin (2002-Present)
1st - John Morrow (1956-1966) 2nd - David Baas (2005-2013)
3rd - David Molk (2012-Present)
RG: 1st - Tom Mack (1966-1978)
2nd - Reggie McKenzie (1972-1984)
RT: 1st - Dan Dierdorf (1971-1983)
2nd - Jeff Backus (2001-2012)
3rd - Jon Jansen (1999-2009)
Defense:
LE: 1st - James Hall (2000-2011)
2nd - Brandon Graham (2010-Present)
Honorable Mention: Len Ford (1948-1958)
DT: 1st - Tom Keating (1964-1975)
2nd - Alan Branch (2007-Present)
RE: 1st - Curtis Greer (1980-1987)
2nd - Dave Gallagher (1974-1979)
Honorable Mention: Bill Hewitt (1932-1943) - I learned today he refused to wear a helmet, and was the last NFL player to not wear one.
LOLB: 1st - John Anderson (1978-1989)
2nd - Cato June (2003-2009)
Honorable Mention: Roger Zatkoff (1953-1958)
MLB: 1st - David Harris (2007-Present)
2nd - Larry Foote (2002-2014)
3rd - Frank Nunley (1967-1976) - Fudge Hammer is maybe the best nickname I have ever heard
4th - Dhani Jones (2001-2010)
ROLB: 1st - LaMarr Woodley (2007-Present)
2nd - Mel Owens (1967-1976)
3rd - Ian Gold (2000-2007)
CB: 1st - Charles Woodson (1998-Present)
2nd - Ty Law (1995-2009)
3rd - Dave Brown (1975-1989)
4th - Leon Hall (2007-Present)
5th - Marlin Jackson (2005-2010)
FS: 1st - Dwight Hicks (1979-1986)
2nd - Rich Volk (1967-1978)
SS: 1st - Randy Logan (1973-1983)
2nd - Keith Bostic (1983-1990)
Special Teams:
K: 1st - Jay Feely (2001-Present)
P: 1st - Don Bracket (1985-1993)
KR/PR: 1st - Desmond Howard (1992-2002)
2nd - Steve Breaston (2007-2012)
Head Coach: George Allen or Jim Harbaugh
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr
A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.
Zombo
Zombo said:
A little disappointed in your offensive weapons for a team of your historical stature.
Zombo
I think he did about as good with what he had to work with. Choosing Hirsch would have helped him.
(but, I guess that thing that Z is saying between the lines is: except at QB...compare the OSU vs. Mich. offensive skill players....OSU comes pretty far out ahead.....but....Quarterbacks matter.....now more than in Benny Friedman's day likely....so it hard to get around Brady....but then almos NONE of the other schools that ever played football have produced a QB as good as him. Arguable about Northwestern, Notre Dame, Tennessee or Louisville...but that's about it.)
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FWIW, about the only link between Imperial College and the NFL...
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_17-10-2013-10-55-42
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QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)
Again...an issue of him playing long ago.
I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed
QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)
Again...an issue of him playing long ago.
I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed
I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions
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QB: 1st - Tom Brady (2000-Present)
2nd - Jim Harbaugh (1987-2000)
3rd - Brian Griese (1998-2008)
Honorable Mention: Benny Friedman (1927-1934) - Learned today he helped revolutionize football and was considered one of the first great passers.
Actually, Friedman should probably be second. He is in the Hall of Fame....and won NFL titles. Harbaugh and Griese hold neither distinction. But Friedman played long long ago, so people don't remember. (plus, he is like you Woody....born/aised in Cleveland)
WR: 1st - Anthony Carter (1985-1995)
2nd - Amani Toomer (1996-2008)
3rd - Derrick Alexander (1994-2002)
4th - Braylon Edwards (2005-2012)
5th - Jason Avant (2006-2014)
6th - Mario Manningham (2008-Present)
Honorable Mention: Elroy Hirsch (1946-1957)
And again....Hirsch perhaps should be #1....as he too is in the PFHOF...where the others didn't come close (only if you include Anthony Carter's USFL years does he match up)
Again...an issue of him playing long ago.
I see you made similar choices....leaving out the proven player.....Hall of Fame players...simply because they played long ago. OK, your choice....even if they are flawed
I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions
I told you already, I weighted my choices some based on when they played. Also, Hirsch transferred to Michigan after some time at Wisconsin. But hey, they were honorable mentions
That is true about Hirsch. He was sort of the Russell Wilson of his day. Two different schools are give credit for sending him to the pros.
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