Bubble players....who stays or goes....
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yep....caught the Kitchen mention the other day too....def made me think....cause I had Hughes as playing end, but rotating inside as the 3rd NT alternative....
I agree...throw the last 4 out(or PS, wherever)....and we can assume AB spends less time at DE and more time at OLB.....
Maybe leaving room for a 6-7 man rotation?? (plus AB)......My assumed locks are Hughes, Shelton, Taylor, Starks, Cooper
Leaving Kitchen, Winn, D. Bryant, Barnett, McDaniel and the rest all fighting for 1or 2 slots.....love it
Out of the last group. my vote is 100% to keeping Winn......
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Love my Billy, but loved the leaner 2013 version even more...
Hard for me to pencil AB in at OLB just yet... a transitioning DE to a spot with one opening and a draft pick in waiting. Of course there are others there he should surpass if the experiment is successful at all... and he'd carry the dual position advantage...
Will be interesting...
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Love my Billy, but loved the leaner 2013 version even more...
Hard for me to pencil AB in at OLB just yet... a transitioning DE to a spot with one opening and a draft pick in waiting. Of course there are others there he should surpass if the experiment is successful at all... and he'd carry the dual position advantage...
Will be interesting...
Love my Billy, but loved the leaner 2013 version even more...
Hard for me to pencil AB in at OLB just yet... a transitioning DE to a spot with one opening and a draft pick in waiting. Of course there are others there he should surpass if the experiment is successful at all... and he'd carry the dual position advantage...
Will be interesting...
Yep...at some point he has to be counted as line or olb....wonder if the position coaches barter for that slot....you know, I need another Lbr cause he's really D line.....then.... NO, I need another de cause hes Lbr....hmmm
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so a few hold overs from last season have already dropped....practice squad players Keith Pough LB and Calvin Barnett DL were just cut.....(a good sign, I think, unless your Pough or Barnett)
and Nick McDonald OL is gone as of today......(what took them so long)(ha!)
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Pough was specifically mentioned by Farmer pre-draft as someone who could make the step up. So I guess if we're cutting him we have better players...?
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it looks like they've placed an injury designation on Pough so, if he should clear waivers, we have the option to keep him by placing him on the injury list.....
It appears we've already used the 2 spots created when we cut these guys, by picking up another LB named Mike Reilly and another OL named Eric Olsen.....
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Yep, saw that. Roster churning, looking for special players cut by other teams, as happens every year.
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Paul Browning - WR
Darius Jennings - WR
Kevin Cone - WR
Travis Benjamin - WR
Rodney Smith - WR
Tyler Loos - LT
Darrian Miller - LG
Vinston Painter - LG
Karim Barton - RG
Andrew McDonald - RT
Jim Dray - TE
EJ Bibbs - TE
Kevin Haplea - TE
Connor Shaw- QB
Glenn Winson - RB
Shaun Draughn - RB
Luke Lundy - RB
Jamie Meder - DE
Dylan Winn - DE
Jaccobi McDaniel - NT
Ishmaaily Kitchen - NT
Darius Eubanks - ILB/FS
Rodman Noel - ILB
Mike Reilly - OLB
Brandon Stephens - CB
Robert Nelson - CB
Micah Pellerin - SS
Landon Feichter- SS
Kendall James - CB
Charley Hughlett - LS
Travis Coons - P
Tank Carder - ILB
Johnson Bademosi - SS
De'Ante Saunders - CB
Bolded players are practice squad eligible
I think that gets us to 53 - not counting Ifo, Pough and Gordon on the exempt/IR list.
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I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
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I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
He would be a great option.....other possibilities could be Gilbert, Gabriel or Gaines.....our own little 3G network
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I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
Gilbert, Gabriel, Moore, Duke.
This team is not lacking in speed and shiftiness.
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I agree.....I just do not see what they see in Benjiman......I figured he'd be cut this year for sure, but the Browns really seem to be talking him up so far......
Bottom line....I see too much talent on this team to keep a one trick pony....if he earns a WR spot, then so be it.....but I think cutting a good player elsewhere, to keep an average kick returner is a luxury we can not afford.....
Bring me a returner like Cribbs or Hester and we can talk......
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I don't see them cutting Benjamin.......who are they gonna have returning punts? Duke?
He would be a great option.....other possibilities could be Gilbert, Gabriel or Gaines.....our own little 3G network
He would be a great option.....other possibilities could be Gilbert, Gabriel or Gaines.....our own little 3G network
Love the 3G Network idea but damn check out the DUKE Network on his Tape. All I read is the Benji "Rabbit" is to return per Tabor so very confusing.. Also believe on passing downs we just can't trot out Duke and Fool anyone..
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I agree.....I just do not see what they see in Benjiman......I figured he'd be cut this year for sure, but the Browns really seem to be talking him up so far......
Bottom line....I see too much talent on this team to keep a one trick pony....if he earns a WR spot, then so be it.....but I think cutting a good player elsewhere, to keep an average kick returner is a luxury we can not afford.....
Bring me a returner like Cribbs or Hester and we can talk......
I agree.....I just do not see what they see in Benjiman......I figured he'd be cut this year for sure, but the Browns really seem to be talking him up so far......
Bottom line....I see too much talent on this team to keep a one trick pony....if he earns a WR spot, then so be it.....but I think cutting a good player elsewhere, to keep an average kick returner is a luxury we can not afford.....
Bring me a returner like Cribbs or Hester and we can talk......
Benji had the capability of being a dynamic return similar to the aforementioned greats. His injury may have changed that, but this regime wants to see what he does in year two PI (post injury) before moving on.
If he's ten percent better than any of the others, keep him. Having a dedicated and talented returner who can sometimes help in the passing game is better than having a key player at another position half heartedly returning kicks.
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I agree.....I just do not see what they see in Benjiman......I figured he'd be cut this year for sure, but the Browns really seem to be talking him up so far......
Bottom line....I see too much talent on this team to keep a one trick pony....if he earns a WR spot, then so be it.....but I think cutting a good player elsewhere, to keep an average kick returner is a luxury we can not afford.....
Bring me a returner like Cribbs or Hester and we can talk......
Benji had the capability of being a dynamic return similar to the aforementioned greats. His injury may have changed that, but this regime wants to see what he does in year two PI (post injury) before moving on.
If he's ten percent better than any of the others, keep him. Having a dedicated and talented returner who can sometimes help in the passing game is better than having a key player at another position half heartedly returning kicks.
Benji had the capability of being a dynamic return similar to the aforementioned greats. His injury may have changed that, but this regime wants to see what he does in year two PI (post injury) before moving on.
If he's ten percent better than any of the others, keep him. Having a dedicated and talented returner who can sometimes help in the passing game is better than having a key player at another position half heartedly returning kicks.
Yep....I agree it looks like they still have some hope he will come around.....my concern isnt his knee, it's his head. It seemed pretty clear to me that he is afraid to catch the ball and run.....perhaps because of the knee??......but fair catching every ball is not what I want to see this year.....
Conversely, I have no indications or reasons to believe that the Duke, Gabe, Gaines or Gilbert would put forth half hearted efforts.....
So they signed the brah from bodybuilding.com, nice.
oh yeah....the Brah guy....
Read his scouting report(terrible by the way) and the funny part was they said he was bulky, but weak.....hahahaha.....(muscle heads always make me laugh)......our own Browns Brah.....hahahaha
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.. and Nick McDonald is out of the mix.
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Benji had the capability of being a dynamic return similar to the aforementioned greats. His injury may have changed that, but this regime wants to see what he does in year two PI (post injury) before moving on.
If he's ten percent better than any of the others, keep him. Having a dedicated and talented returner who can sometimes help in the passing game is better than having a key player at another position half heartedly returning kicks.
Yep....I agree it looks like they still have some hope he will come around.....my concern isnt his knee, it's his head. It seemed pretty clear to me that he is afraid to catch the ball and run.....perhaps because of the knee??......but fair catching every ball is not what I want to see this year.....
Conversely, I have no indications or reasons to believe that the Duke, Gabe, Gaines or Gilbert would put forth half hearted efforts.....
So they signed the brah from bodybuilding.com, nice.
oh yeah....the Brah guy....
Read his scouting report(terrible by the way) and the funny part was they said he was bulky, but weak.....hahahaha.....(muscle heads always make me laugh)......our own Browns Brah.....hahahaha
Yep....I agree it looks like they still have some hope he will come around.....my concern isnt his knee, it's his head. It seemed pretty clear to me that he is afraid to catch the ball and run.....perhaps because of the knee??......but fair catching every ball is not what I want to see this year.....
Conversely, I have no indications or reasons to believe that the Duke, Gabe, Gaines or Gilbert would put forth half hearted efforts.....
oh yeah....the Brah guy....
Read his scouting report(terrible by the way) and the funny part was they said he was bulky, but weak.....hahahaha.....(muscle heads always make me laugh)......our own Browns Brah.....hahahaha
Not necessarily half-hearted efforts, but I expect each of them to be more involved in their respective positions than Benjamin is at WR (maybe not Gaines).
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i think benji's confidence has taken a hit since he got hit/injury.
might never be the same.
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