The GOP establishment trying to force idiot candidates on America
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Can we cut the layer of bullshit here? The main point is that he, like many other YECs, does not accept that climate change is a thing and so wouldn't endorse any corrective actions, such as funding research in cleaner fuels, moving from a dependency on fossil fuels etc. and this is in spite of the mountain of evidence to the contrary - like the age of the earth, which is obvious to anyone without a hardcore creationist narrative.
Woody, am I wrong on your concerns?
Legacy, thoughts? Because this is clearly something he'll have to deal with should he become president.
Can we cut the layer of bullshit here? The main point is that he, like many other YECs, does not accept that climate change is a thing and so wouldn't endorse any corrective actions, such as funding research in cleaner fuels, moving from a dependency on fossil fuels etc. and this is in spite of the mountain of evidence to the contrary - like the age of the earth, which is obvious to anyone without a hardcore creationist narrative.
Woody, am I wrong on your concerns?
Legacy, thoughts? Because this is clearly something he'll have to deal with should he become president.
That would basically be one of them, yes.
And I'm correct in saying you're more or less on my side here, right? I believe when this came up in an older thread you basically mirrored the concerns I had.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
And another point I think that free school appeals to the 47 percent who think everything is just luck and unfair. They like to believe they'd be successful if only...
Another excuse for failure that is exploited by the left in my opinion.
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Can we generalize about every group of people based on finance /taxes now? I'm just curious.
Can we generalize about every group of people based on finance /taxes now? I'm just curious.
Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
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Can we generalize about every group of people based on finance /taxes now? I'm just curious.
Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
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Can we cut the layer of bullshit here? The main point is that he, like many other YECs, does not accept that climate change is a thing and so wouldn't endorse any corrective actions, such as funding research in cleaner fuels, moving from a dependency on fossil fuels etc. and this is in spite of the mountain of evidence to the contrary - like the age of the earth, which is obvious to anyone without a hardcore creationist narrative.
Woody, am I wrong on your concerns?
Legacy, thoughts? Because this is clearly something he'll have to deal with should he become president.
That would basically be one of them, yes.
And I'm correct in saying you're more or less on my side here, right? I believe when this came up in an older thread you basically mirrored the concerns I had.
That would basically be one of them, yes.
And I'm correct in saying you're more or less on my side here, right? I believe when this came up in an older thread you basically mirrored the concerns I had.
By and large, yes. I get put off by people claiming to have spoken to God and using that to justify their actions, things like that. Like Bush in Iraq - I happen to think it was, on balance, good to remove Saddam Hussein, though that's a whole other kettle of fish, but the justification of 'God told me to do it' is bullshit.
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Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
I think you are exactly correct. That doesn't have very much to do with people being motivated to pursue those fields does it? I know enough people who have gotten handouts for college and or trade schools. (some with success, even though they could have paid for it and some are still deadbeats) It really isn't that hard, but it takes a bit of effort. I would imagine that guys like you will be successful whether or not your pop has money. And it's not because of luck.
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For examples off the top of my head. One guy went to barber college. One woman majored in fashion design while another woman pursued and online course in social work while another man had truck driving school paid for.
Only the first guy who had actually worked his whole life before getting laid off and going to barber college has made a success of his training. The others, life-long losers, are still losers
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We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
I think you are exactly correct. That doesn't have very much to do with people being motivated to pursue those fields does it? I know enough people who have gotten handouts for college and or trade schools. (some with success, even though they could have paid for it and some are still deadbeats) It really isn't that hard, but it takes a bit of effort. I would imagine that guys like you will be successful whether or not your pop has money. And it's not because of luck.
WSS
I think you are exactly correct. That doesn't have very much to do with people being motivated to pursue those fields does it? I know enough people who have gotten handouts for college and or trade schools. (some with success, even though they could have paid for it and some are still deadbeats) It really isn't that hard, but it takes a bit of effort. I would imagine that guys like you will be successful whether or not your pop has money. And it's not because of luck.
WSS
Awe thanks. That post started and ended with a compliment.
You have nice hair. And people enjoy your music
What do you consider a handout in regards to tuition?
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None of the four included a student loan. One was a program for laid off Union machinists and the others were grants and welfare.
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Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
now you are getting into real life scenarios in and around (any) industry. I am laughing at the prospect of the college guy having to roll up his sleeves and get "dirty"
because Joe called in sick,
And like you said - Bill is retiring next year and the new hires dont have a clue! or there ARENT any qualified people to support the infrastructure.
Just be lucky you arent that high up in the management (yet?) so as not to have to stare down a union boss and tell him to go pound sand....
and wait til he leaves so he wont see you changing into a uni? HAHAHA
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And I'm not totally against handouts.
I just don't see them as being the panacea that some people do.
Public school is a good example. Even in the shittiest public school there are a number of students who excel and succeed. The teachers are all union members held to the same high standards of graduation and degrees as anywhere in the teaching world. And it's free so by the logic that wants to make college free should be turning out 100% of the students as competent citizens.
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We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
now you are getting into real life scenarios in and around (any) industry. I am laughing at the prospect of the college guy having to roll up his sleeves and get "dirty"
because Joe called in sick,
And like you said - Bill is retiring next year and the new hires dont have a clue! or there ARENT any qualified people to support the infrastructure.
Just be lucky you arent that high up in the management (yet?) so as not to have to stare down a union boss and tell him to go pound sand....
and wait til he leaves so he wont see you changing into a uni? HAHAHA
now you are getting into real life scenarios in and around (any) industry. I am laughing at the prospect of the college guy having to roll up his sleeves and get "dirty"
because Joe called in sick,
And like you said - Bill is retiring next year and the new hires dont have a clue! or there ARENT any qualified people to support the infrastructure.
Just be lucky you arent that high up in the management (yet?) so as not to have to stare down a union boss and tell him to go pound sand....
and wait til he leaves so he wont see you changing into a uni? HAHAHA
I roll up my sleeves and work on machines a lot. I'm a manufacturing engineer, I do a lot of hands on things. We also brought in a new line I was responsible for getting up and running.
There are a lot of restrictions in working with a union. A lot of times it makes my job harder/take longer to complete things. But, I've gotten in pretty well with the union here, and they've allowed me to work more on things that might be considered maintenance. So I can't complain too much.
We have no new hires in skilled trades. Well, no young new hires at least.
I will not be involved in the union contract discussions taking place next year. I'll be at another facility by then too. Though I would like to see it. We have almost doubled the workforce in the last year, with mainly younger operators. There is a divide amount the older and newer operators on the importance of being union.
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I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
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Drinking game: drink every time woody mentions stem or bitches about "young earth". Double shots every time he has a delusional belief michigan can compete with OSU. you'll never be sober.
Is it a new mention every time I just reply to an ongoing conversation? In that case, you owe Legacy fan for your buzz.
Is there a drinking game about you saying every black person in the world having the same "black" culture? How about your obviously very emotionally charged views on topics? No game? oh, ok
If you want delusional, read the posts by OSU fans in the CFB Board (some of which are yours). Anything that isn't 100% OSU all of the time is an attach or an insult on the school. You can't sort one from the other, especially from a Michigan fan. I'll leave it at that though, this thread would get even more off topic. Reply to this part of the post as you see fit.
Is it a new mention every time I just reply to an ongoing conversation? In that case, you owe Legacy fan for your buzz.
Is there a drinking game about you saying every black person in the world having the same "black" culture? How about your obviously very emotionally charged views on topics? No game? oh, ok
If you want delusional, read the posts by OSU fans in the CFB Board (some of which are yours). Anything that isn't 100% OSU all of the time is an attach or an insult on the school. You can't sort one from the other, especially from a Michigan fan. I'll leave it at that though, this thread would get even more off topic. Reply to this part of the post as you see fit.
Im probably the least if your worries over on the CFB Board. As for black culture which I do mention as being the worst racial culture on earth I bring it up a lot less than you mention your pet peeves. For as often as blacks get up to shenanigans in the news I avoid it probably 7 of 10 times only commenting when it gets out of hand (which, admittedly, seems frequent lately) it's to your discredit that you think I've said "every black person" participates in the perpetuation of that culture but it's there all the same and denying it makes you look just sort of Retardy.
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Yes. Hopefully that eases your curiosity. I'd say that's more useful then generalizing that poor people will all be rich smart and successful if you just write them a check for college.
WSS
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
We need more people pursuing vocational careers. Almost every plant I've worked in, especially the current one, has a pretty old maintenance team. Half of the guys could retire now, and the rest in about 5 years. Electricians, Machine Repair, etc. There is good money to be made there to. I just think jobs like this have a negative connotation to some, so they aren't pursued.
I think you are correct although it seems silly that people with no job experience would consider a career as an electrician not good enough for themselves. What you've got now is an entire new generation who has gotten the idea that they will go to college and have 100,000 dollar a year jobs. It's just not reality
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
Oh I'm not really talking about red tape, just hiring guys that know how to do something better than I do. Correction lots lots better than I do. And those guys make a good living.
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I hire roofers, Auto Mechanics, Plumber, House repair, drywall guys, lawn services, electricians etc etc all of which to perform services I could probably do myself if I spent 10 times the amount of effort and wasn't worried about doing a shitty job.
WSS
Not sure about there but here you need an electrician to sign off any electrical work, even if you do it yourself, otherwise it invalidates your insurance, makes you liable for stuff etc.
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Can we back the truck up a minute? (my stewed tomatoes for tomato dumplings is cooking...)...
Legacy and Woody were talking about Carson and his Christian belief about God creating the world
only so long ago. etc.
Where was this idea that that is a problem with Carson ever being president, when OBAMAO is also
a Christian, so he also believes the same?
Why is it a "concern" only about Carson? Obamao says all along he was a Christian.
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I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
I have worked with alot of engineers too - and Nothing earns more respect than having a guy jump in whenever hes needed
kudos to you and good luck!
Awe, even more compliments today!
My mfg engr group got down to just me for a few months. I had to basically do everything. I'm fresh outta school. I need to put in the long hours, just grind now to get recognized. Normal stuff.
The maintenance guys let me do a lot of that stuff now though, so that's nice. It is usually some collaborative engineering and maintenance stuff, but then I can get in there and help with there end. Hands on things.
There are a lot of different types of engineers. Manufacturing Engineers will do that. Design Engineers, not so much.
What job do you have where you get to work with a lot if engineers?
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