Hall of Fame QB win percentages
-
I can list 10 other better QBs with the snap of my finger......as I said, he barely made top 5 of his own era.
.
We know thats your opinion. And you know our opinion.
My point is that I presented an argument showing a consensus supporting Young as a top 10 all timer...
So, Ill ask again....can you produce the same to support your views?.....got any lists that show anyone else supports your argument(or do you just assume you know more than everyone else, including the HOF committee).(10 lists would be nice, since I easily did it).....or some top 10 lists w/o young?(cause I could get 20 more with him)...
We know thats your opinion. And you know our opinion.
My point is that I presented an argument showing a consensus supporting Young as a top 10 all timer...
So, Ill ask again....can you produce the same to support your views?.....got any lists that show anyone else supports your argument(or do you just assume you know more than everyone else, including the HOF committee).(10 lists would be nice, since I easily did it).....or some top 10 lists w/o young?(cause I could get 20 more with him)...
Yea, here is a list: He is at best 6th among his own contemporaries:
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Marino
Aikman
All better. That means I only need to find 5 more from the rest of football history. Let's see:
How about Peyton, Brady, Brees
How about Graham, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Baugh, Luckman
-
Zombo said:
Same system that Joe Montana and Bret Favre played almost their entire careers in, so do we throw them out too?
No, but those guys were better IMo than Young
Your beloved Ranbo had his only great year in Denny Green's WCO, should we throw out his Vikings years because he fit the system?
Who is Ranbo?
So all these writers that voted Young All-Pro and HOF were wrong and you are right?
No....again, I was only comparing similarities of the Esiason's and Cunninghams, not necessarily arguing that they were better.
But yes, I am right when I say that the following contemporaries of Young were better than Young:
Favre
Montana (if you consider him a contemporary)
Elway
Marino
Kelly
Aikman
I also do not believe that Young accomplished one iota more than Stabler...except throw fewer ints.
(but I do think that Young was better than contemporary Warren Moon...also HOF)
Ok.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Same system that Joe Montana and Bret Favre played almost their entire careers in, so do we throw them out too?
No, but those guys were better IMo than Young
Your beloved Ranbo had his only great year in Denny Green's WCO, should we throw out his Vikings years because he fit the system?
Who is Ranbo?
So all these writers that voted Young All-Pro and HOF were wrong and you are right?
No....again, I was only comparing similarities of the Esiason's and Cunninghams, not necessarily arguing that they were better.
But yes, I am right when I say that the following contemporaries of Young were better than Young:
Favre
Montana (if you consider him a contemporary)
Elway
Marino
Kelly
Aikman
I also do not believe that Young accomplished one iota more than Stabler...except throw fewer ints.
(but I do think that Young was better than contemporary Warren Moon...also HOF)
Ok.
Zombo
Ranbo Cunningham. Eagles fans used to call him that when he first came along. It didn't stick.
Zombo
-
We know thats your opinion. And you know our opinion.
My point is that I presented an argument showing a consensus supporting Young as a top 10 all timer...
So, Ill ask again....can you produce the same to support your views?.....got any lists that show anyone else supports your argument(or do you just assume you know more than everyone else, including the HOF committee).(10 lists would be nice, since I easily did it).....or some top 10 lists w/o young?(cause I could get 20 more with him)...
Yea, here is a list: He is at best 6th among his own contemporaries:
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Marino
Aikman
All better. That means I only need to find 5 more from the rest of football history. Let's see:
How about Peyton, Brady, Brees
How about Graham, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Baugh, Luckman
We know thats your opinion. And you know our opinion.
My point is that I presented an argument showing a consensus supporting Young as a top 10 all timer...
So, Ill ask again....can you produce the same to support your views?.....got any lists that show anyone else supports your argument(or do you just assume you know more than everyone else, including the HOF committee).(10 lists would be nice, since I easily did it).....or some top 10 lists w/o young?(cause I could get 20 more with him)...
Yea, here is a list: He is at best 6th among his own contemporaries:
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Marino
Aikman
All better. That means I only need to find 5 more from the rest of football history. Let's see:
How about Peyton, Brady, Brees
How about Graham, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Baugh, Luckman
He said "anyone else."
-
We know thats your opinion. And you know our opinion.
My point is that I presented an argument showing a consensus supporting Young as a top 10 all timer...
So, Ill ask again....can you produce the same to support your views?.....got any lists that show anyone else supports your argument(or do you just assume you know more than everyone else, including the HOF committee).(10 lists would be nice, since I easily did it).....or some top 10 lists w/o young?(cause I could get 20 more with him)...
Yea, here is a list: He is at best 6th among his own contemporaries:
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Marino
Aikman
All better. That means I only need to find 5 more from the rest of football history. Let's see:
How about Peyton, Brady, Brees
How about Graham, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Baugh, Luckman
He said "anyone else."
-
-
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
-
You're boy Kenny might get in after all. Got nominated as one of the Senior finalists for the Hall. I'd post the link but can't do it on this computer.
Z
Zombo said:
You're boy Kenny might get in after all. Got nominated as one of the Senior finalists for the Hall. I'd post the link but can't do it on this computer.
Z
He'll get in. Along with Dick Stanfel.....and these other players:
Brett Favre
Kurt Warner
Orlando Pace
Marvin Harrison
Alan Faneca
plus a coach or contributor
T.O will have to wait a while.
-
Here are the semi-finalists from last year who did not make it.....I say that half of the new group (non Senior, non contributor) comes from this group...even if my choices aren't there:
Morten Anderson
Steve Atwater
Isaac Bruce
Don Coryell
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
Tony Dungy
Kevin Greene
Tory Holt
Joe Jacoby
Edgerrin James
Jimmy Johnson
Mike Kenn
Ty Law
John Lynch
Kevin Mawae
Karl Mecklenberg
Kurt Warner
Darren Woodson
Orlando Pace
Marvin Harrison
-
-
I meant it as a compliment, Gip...
No one beats a dead horse like you do.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
-
But, there are those who do it better:
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login