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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

    I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

    State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

    Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

    Offense:

    LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

    RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

    LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

    LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

    OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

    RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

    RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

    TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

    QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

    FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

    RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

    Defense:

    DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

    NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

    DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

    OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

    ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

    ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

    OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

    LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

    SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

    FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

    RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

    Special Teams:

    Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

    Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

    Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

    Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

    I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

    Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

    I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

    State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

    Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

    Offense:

    LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

    RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

    LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

    LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

    OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

    RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

    RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert - nope, no idea

    TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller- nope, no idea

    QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

    FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

    RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

    Defense:

    DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

    NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon- nope, no idea

    DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

    OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

    ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

    ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

    OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones...Elvis Dumervil?

    LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

    SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

    FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

    RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

    Special Teams:

    Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

    Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

    Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

    Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton- nope, no idea

    I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

    Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      I see your note about Dumerville......but oddly, Ourlads where I got my Depth Chart info, has Dumervil as second string behind Courtney Upshaw and that is why I didn't have him listed. So, I don't know what's up with that. But good catch.

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      • BaconHound B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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        Probably going to between Ravens and Stoolers

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

          I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

          State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

          Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

          Offense:

          LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

          RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

          LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

          LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

          OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

          RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

          RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

          TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

          QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

          FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

          RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

          Defense:

          DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

          NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

          DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

          OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

          ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

          ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

          OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

          LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

          SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

          FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

          RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

          Special Teams:

          Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

          Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

          Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

          Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

          I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

          Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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          StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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          @the-gipper said:

          Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

          I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

          State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

          Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

          Offense:

          LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

          RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

          LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

          LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

          OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey... Tie

          RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

          RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

          TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

          QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

          FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

          RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

          Defense:

          DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

          NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

          DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

          OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

          ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

          ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

          OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

          LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

          SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

          FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

          RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

          Special Teams:

          Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

          Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

          Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

          Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

          I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

          Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

          Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

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            @the-gipper said:

            Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

            I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

            State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

            Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

            Offense:

            LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

            RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

            LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

            LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

            OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey... Tie

            RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

            RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

            TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

            QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

            FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

            RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

            Defense:

            DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

            NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

            DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

            OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

            ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

            ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

            OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

            LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

            SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

            FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

            RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

            Special Teams:

            Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

            Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

            Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

            Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

            I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

            Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

            Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            @stinkhole said:

            Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

            You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

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              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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              Yeah I was about to say no Yanda? Get outta here. Best Guard in the league by far. Fortunately Bito was probably in the top 3 by far.

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

                I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

                State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

                Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

                Offense:

                LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

                RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

                LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

                LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

                OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

                RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

                RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

                TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

                QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

                FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

                RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

                Defense:

                DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

                NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

                DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

                OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

                ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

                ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

                OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

                LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

                SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

                FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

                RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

                Special Teams:

                Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

                Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

                Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

                Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

                I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

                Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

                I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

                State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

                Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

                Offense:

                LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

                RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

                LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

                LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

                OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

                RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

                RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

                TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

                QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

                FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

                RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

                Defense:

                DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

                NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

                DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

                OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

                ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

                ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

                OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

                LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

                SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

                FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

                RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

                Special Teams:

                Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

                Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

                Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

                Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

                I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

                Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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                • tiamat63T tiamat63

                  @stinkhole said:

                  Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

                  You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

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                  VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

                  Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

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                  • VagitronV Vagitron

                    @tiamat63 said:

                    You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

                    Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    @vagitron said:

                    Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

                    no.

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                    • VagitronV Vagitron

                      @tiamat63 said:

                      You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

                      Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

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                      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                      @vagitron said:

                      Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

                      ......if we're doing that, might as well just pencil Shelton and Cooper in for the next 10 years......

                      Based upon stats and proven play, Dansby is the best MLB out of that group.....

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                      • VagitronV Vagitron

                        @tiamat63 said:

                        You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

                        Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

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                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                        @vagitron said:

                        Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

                        As much as I love RDS, there is no evidence to support this other then pure bias.

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                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                          Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

                          I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

                          State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

                          Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

                          Offense:

                          LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

                          RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

                          LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

                          LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

                          OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

                          RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

                          RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

                          TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

                          QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

                          FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

                          RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

                          Defense:

                          DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

                          NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

                          DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

                          OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

                          ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

                          ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

                          OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

                          LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

                          SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

                          FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

                          RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

                          Special Teams:

                          Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

                          Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

                          Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

                          Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

                          I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

                          Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

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                          Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

                          I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

                          State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

                          Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

                          Offense:

                          LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

                          RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

                          LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

                          LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

                          OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

                          RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

                          RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

                          TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

                          QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

                          FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

                          RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

                          Defense:

                          DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

                          NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

                          DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

                          OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

                          ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

                          ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

                          OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

                          LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

                          SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

                          FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

                          RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

                          Special Teams:

                          Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

                          Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

                          Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

                          Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

                          I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

                          Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

                          I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

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                            @vagitron said:

                            Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

                            ......if we're doing that, might as well just pencil Shelton and Cooper in for the next 10 years......

                            Based upon stats and proven play, Dansby is the best MLB out of that group.....

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                            VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by Vagitron
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                            @mudfly said:

                            ......if we're doing that, might as well just pencil Shelton and Cooper in for the next 10 years......

                            Based upon stats and proven play, Dansby is the best MLB out of that group.....

                            I was only comparing shazier to mosely. Follow along.
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                              @vagitron said:

                              Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

                              As much as I love RDS, there is no evidence to support this other then pure bias.

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              As much as I love RDS, there is no evidence to support this other then pure bias.

                              Mosely had a nice season no doubt. Shazier before his injury was a tackling machine and very disruptive. He's already picking up where he left off and he's a better athlete than mosely. I wouldn't be surprised if Shazier leads the NFL in tackles. His speed is unreal he just needs to stay healthy.

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                                Dont know if anyone else watched the Eagles slay the Ravens last night......but WOW.....Ravens looked terrible.....

                                really really bad......

                                really bad.....

                                just bad....

                                baaad...

                                bad.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

                                  I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

                                  State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

                                  Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

                                  Offense:

                                  LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

                                  RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

                                  LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

                                  LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

                                  OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

                                  RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

                                  RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

                                  TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

                                  QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

                                  FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

                                  RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

                                  Defense:

                                  DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

                                  NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

                                  DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

                                  OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

                                  ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

                                  ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

                                  OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

                                  LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

                                  SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

                                  FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

                                  RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

                                  Special Teams:

                                  Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

                                  Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

                                  Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

                                  Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

                                  I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

                                  Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

                                  I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

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                                  Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                  @mike-h said:

                                  I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

                                  We've got to quit agreeing...

                                  Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

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                                    Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                    @mike-h said:

                                    I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

                                    We've got to quit agreeing...

                                    Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                    Happy to help...😉

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                                      Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                      @mike-h said:

                                      I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

                                      We've got to quit agreeing...

                                      Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                      We've got to quit agreeing...

                                      Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

                                      And then you realize Andy Dalton is the qb. Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Browns. Bank it.
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                                      • VagitronV Vagitron

                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler... 🙁

                                        We've got to quit agreeing...

                                        Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

                                        And then you realize Andy Dalton is the qb. Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Browns. Bank it.
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                                        Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by Mike H
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                                        @vagitron said:

                                        And then you realize Andy Dalton is the qb. Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Browns. Bank it.

                                        Your defense is really bad, I'm not sure how you can say that. At least we're realistic here, you're still in the clouds.

                                        Bengals, Browns, Steelers, Ravens

                                        Bank it.

                                        You hillbillies should fix your field too, it just claimed Jordy Nelson.

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                                          Steelers, Bengals, Browns, Ravens. All within 3 games of each other. Capiche?

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