Browns Draft Strategy beginning in 2016
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I have no faith in McCown. Can't see him lasting long.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Per PFRs Career Average stat, the following are the best players drafted from Ohio St (at least going back to the 50s/60s):
1. Paul Warfield
2. Orlando Pace
3. Chris Carter
4. Jim Tyrer
5. Randy Gradishar
6. Eddie George
7. Joey Galloway
8. Jim Lachey
9. Pepper Johnson
10. Chris Spielman
Groza, Lavelli and Willis probably were undrafted and/or before this stat was applied, eh?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Groza, Lavelli and Willis probably were undrafted and/or before this stat was applied, eh?
Zombo
Yea, I was looking at the CA averages....which do not go back to their days....that is why I said "going back to the 50s/60s)
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I have no faith in McCown. Can't see him lasting long.
I have no faith in McCown. Can't see him lasting long.
What has that got to do with either draft strategy or what we have been saying here for the last two pages.
That is so random, like saying "I have no confidence that Beano will stop me from farting".
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Saw today that Todd McShay's first draft top 32 for 2016 has Cardale Jones @ #19. That would give the Browns a legit shot if it held up.
Saw today that Todd McShay's first draft top 32 for 2016 has Cardale Jones @ #19. That would give the Browns a legit shot if it held up.
Not seeing much chance of that based upon game 1. Kid doesn't act like he has a pulse.
I have no faith in McCown. Can't see him lasting long.
He's not supposed to last long...
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I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
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I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
EzE is the superior pass catcher and off ball player. In today's NFL, that means a lot.
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I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
Not wanting to rule him out right away, but the Browns didn't have the best luck with the last RB we took from Bama....
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I think I would move Derrick Henry past Elliott as the top RB. At 6'3" 242 lbs. with power and speed he could help our running game set up the play action and get the tough yards inside.
Not wanting to rule him out right away, but the Browns didn't have the best luck with the last RB we took from Bama....
Not wanting to rule him out right away, but the Browns didn't have the best luck with the last RB we took from Bama....
sec is not treating us well lately........Manziel, Mingo and Richardson......
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Not wanting to rule him out right away, but the Browns didn't have the best luck with the last RB we took from Bama....
sec is not treating us well lately........Manziel, Mingo and Richardson......
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Add Malcolm Johnson and Bowe to that list lol!
Id probably take Elliot over Henry too. Henry looks a step slow. Destined for "plodder" status in the NFL after his initial shine wears off. He hasn't done a ton this year either but then, I realize they're asking him to play a limited role.
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Well you can wait another year and take Fornette (the next Adrian Peterson) after the SEC shock wears off.
Or Samaje Perine and skip the SEC all together
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Well you can wait another year and take Fornette (the next Adrian Peterson) after the SEC shock wears off.
Or Samaje Perine and skip the SEC all together
Or Samaje Perine and skip the SEC all together
Big 12 Dumpster fire? Right. Valerie Perrine would be better for our O
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Perrine's legit, no doubt.
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there is only one option for us at #1, which is very likely where we'll pick. We have to go BPA. No more drafting for need, that can happen in the later rounds. We have to start drafting talent, period. Right now that's Bosa to me. We need a big strong edge that can throw lineman off him and get around them with both strength and technique. That's Bosa. If Joey Bosa were to be put on this team "right now"....he might be one of the best run stoppers on the team and frankly might be the most polished pass rusher too save perhaps for Armonty.
I dunno, we've drafted talented pass rushers before but for some reason they don't really develop right. I have no explanation for that.
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Perrine's legit, no doubt.
Nice thing is he is sharing carries with Mixon which lightens his load and keeps him fresh. If he stays healthy he'll be a beast in the NFL
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Since the Nixon administration, there is exactly one case of a Super Bowl being won by a team with a below-average QB having a below-average season: the 2000 Ravens. Super Bowls are most commonly won by great QBs, and with very few exceptions the rest are won by really good ones. Some Super Bowl teams have very good running games, some have mediocre ones, and some have really bad ones. Some teams cited for the idea that you can with an offense based around a great running game rather than efficient passing actually prove the opposite. The 2003 Buccaneers were horribly led by Michael Pittman’s 3.5 yards a carry. The 1990 Giants also had a replacement-level running game and an efficient passing game. The Patriots had a mediocre running game in 2001 and a terrible one in 2003.
It’s not complicated. The NFL is completely dominated by pass offense and pass defense and has been for a loooong time. The marginal quality of your running game isn’t terribly important, and you don’t need to invest in an expensive running back to get a good enough running game.
A great quarterback and a below-average running game is a great offense. Barry Sanders and a mediocre quarterback is a mediocre offense.
Draft a QB and receivers and stop the insanity.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Since the Nixon administration, there is exactly one case of a Super Bowl being won by a team with a below-average QB having a below-average season: the 2000 Ravens. Super Bowls are most commonly won by great QBs, and with very few exceptions the rest are won by really good ones. Some Super Bowl teams have very good running games, some have mediocre ones, and some have really bad ones. Some teams cited for the idea that you can with an offense based around a great running game rather than efficient passing actually prove the opposite. The 2003 Buccaneers were horribly led by Michael Pittman’s 3.5 yards a carry. The 1990 Giants also had a replacement-level running game and an efficient passing game. The Patriots had a mediocre running game in 2001 and a terrible one in 2003.
It’s not complicated. The NFL is completely dominated by pass offense and pass defense and has been for a loooong time. The marginal quality of your running game isn’t terribly important, and you don’t need to invest in an expensive running back to get a good enough running game.
A great quarterback and a below-average running game is a great offense. Barry Sanders and a mediocre quarterback is a mediocre offense.
Draft a QB and receivers and stop the insanity.
Since the Nixon administration, there is exactly one case of a Super Bowl being won by a team with a below-average QB having a below-average season: the 2000 Ravens. Super Bowls are most commonly won by great QBs, and with very few exceptions the rest are won by really good ones. Some Super Bowl teams have very good running games, some have mediocre ones, and some have really bad ones. Some teams cited for the idea that you can with an offense based around a great running game rather than efficient passing actually prove the opposite. The 2003 Buccaneers were horribly led by Michael Pittman’s 3.5 yards a carry. The 1990 Giants also had a replacement-level running game and an efficient passing game. The Patriots had a mediocre running game in 2001 and a terrible one in 2003.
It’s not complicated. The NFL is completely dominated by pass offense and pass defense and has been for a loooong time. The marginal quality of your running game isn’t terribly important, and you don’t need to invest in an expensive running back to get a good enough running game.
A great quarterback and a below-average running game is a great offense. Barry Sanders and a mediocre quarterback is a mediocre offense.
Draft a QB and receivers and stop the insanity.
Beginning to think that way. Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Ladainian Tomlinson for all their collective greatness have exactly two Championships between the four of them.
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Zombo said:
Hartline and Hawkins will both catch 70 balls. Hartline will be offensive MVP.
Z
Hartline- 8\123
Hawkins- 10\112
That will project to around 40\500
The problem is obvious.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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