could Joey Bosa start for the Browns tommorrow...
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anybody watching this garbage that wouldn't want to see the kid out there right now in a Browns uni?
anybody watching this garbage that wouldn't want to see the kid out there right now in a Browns uni?
We're down 5 to a divisional rival at halftime.
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cause we're playing so well right? look i don't care if we fall into a win here ass backwards cause the Ravens have their own issues....this is still shiite. The fact the Ravens have only 14 pts at halftime is more an indictment of them than it is the result of anythign we're doing.
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What is the point of this?
That a college kid "right now" could conceivably be the most skilled pass rusher on the Browns roster if he was on it.
That a college kid "right now" could conceivably be the most skilled pass rusher on the Browns roster if he was on it.
As much as I like your posts Clev, Bosa's got 1 sack against Sigma Phi Epsilon + he's already been suspended.
Does our history tell us this type of guy is ideal to throw a nice big contract and signing bonus at?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
That a college kid "right now" could conceivably be the most skilled pass rusher on the Browns roster if he was on it.
As much as I like your posts Clev, Bosa's got 1 sack against Sigma Phi Epsilon + he's already been suspended.
Does our history tell us this type of guy is ideal to throw a nice big contract and signing bonus at?
As much as I like your posts Clev, Bosa's got 1 sack against Sigma Phi Epsilon + he's already been suspended.
Does our history tell us this type of guy is ideal to throw a nice big contract and signing bonus at?
1st round contracts are hardly franchise crippling anymore with the structure in the CBA.
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Big difference between a college offensive line and the NFL. Bosa could be a "bust" in the NFL. Start right now? What are you smokin?
Big difference between a college offensive line and the NFL. Bosa could be a "bust" in the NFL. Start right now? What are you smokin?
I couldn't agree more. Have you seen him play lately? Sometimes good, sometimes very bad.
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As much as I like your posts Clev, Bosa's got 1 sack against Sigma Phi Epsilon + he's already been suspended.
Does our history tell us this type of guy is ideal to throw a nice big contract and signing bonus at?
1st round contracts are hardly franchise crippling anymore with the structure in the CBA.
1st round contracts are hardly franchise crippling anymore with the structure in the CBA.
True. That aside, a first round draft selection is still an important investment to our roster with so people spend a lot of time worrying about how guys like Manziel and Gilbert end up turning out. Bosa shows me that he handled a successful 2014 season with a need to be suspended already in 2015. Along the same line, Josh Gordon followed a Pro Bowl Season in 2013 with 2 consecutive suspensions in 2014 and 2015. While his cap hit is minimal per say, we had hoped there would have been more good football from the guy since we got him in 2012.
I'm seeing red flags with Bosa even though I wish I wasn't.
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yeah i actually did not know about his susp against Va tech. I missed that game was out of town. I cannot find anything about what he did, Urbs is keeping the suspension of 4 players during that game closed. Oh well we'll eventually know what it was for cause it has to be disclosed to the NFL prior to the draft. Still want him though. As for his play this year he's constantly within a couple steps of the QB regardless of his sack numbers. Frankly that entire defense looks like it's playing just hard enough to keep the offense ahead, they're playing to be healthy at the end of the season. Also one could probably surmise that Bosa is trying to keep himself healthy cause he's going to be a top 5 pick, cause he seems to dial it up and down at will.
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Aside from the 1 game suspension, what red flags?
You've watched Ohio State play this year and you're asking me this? I'm one of many fans in this thread not seeing Bosa playing inspired football against inferior opponents this year, which puts red flags on a gotta have first round prospect at this time. I hope that changes because I was initially very impressed with him.
When we've had guys like Phil Taylor showing up out of shape every year and Josh Gordon remaining suspended for other priorities - I'm going to notice red flags on prospects.
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yeah i actually did not know about his susp against Va tech. I missed that game was out of town. I cannot find anything about what he did, Urbs is keeping the suspension of 4 players during that game closed. Oh well we'll eventually know what it was for cause it has to be disclosed to the NFL prior to the draft. Still want him though. As for his play this year he's constantly within a couple steps of the QB regardless of his sack numbers. Frankly that entire defense looks like it's playing just hard enough to keep the offense ahead, they're playing to be healthy at the end of the season. Also one could probably surmise that Bosa is trying to keep himself healthy cause he's going to be a top 5 pick, cause he seems to dial it up and down at will.
yeah i actually did not know about his susp against Va tech. I missed that game was out of town. I cannot find anything about what he did, Urbs is keeping the suspension of 4 players during that game closed. Oh well we'll eventually know what it was for cause it has to be disclosed to the NFL prior to the draft. Still want him though. As for his play this year he's constantly within a couple steps of the QB regardless of his sack numbers. Frankly that entire defense looks like it's playing just hard enough to keep the offense ahead, they're playing to be healthy at the end of the season. Also one could probably surmise that Bosa is trying to keep himself healthy cause he's going to be a top 5 pick, cause he seems to dial it up and down at will.
Maybe today will bring out the same beast in Bosa that had me constantly saying "WOW!" when I was getting my first impression of him during his Freshman year that continued into his soph season. Last year, he took over the Penn State game when Ohio State needed somebody to step up and provide the winning edge late.
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Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
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Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
I pretty much agree with this ^^^^^....
He's a real good looking player, but I dont see him anywhere near AJ Watt....and, right now, dont see #1 overall type of play either....
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He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
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These comments are surprising me. I know PFF has him as the highest graded DE in the country so far this year. Also, I have a friend that played for Ohio State for two years (transferred). He keeps up with them pretty closely, and says Bosa's been balling. He also played D End himself so I think he'd know. I'm curious what specifically y'all are seeing.
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What is the point of this?
What is the point of this?
Yeah...what is the point? Our geniuses will pass on him in the draft, anyway. They are smarter than everyone else....remember?
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He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
Good post! Yes, I did notice they/Barkely ran away from Bosa. Keep in mind, Bosa took over the game vrs Penn State last year so if he had the same matchup this year - James Franklin was going to have that factored into last night's game plan. I also heard PSU has had trouble protecting their QB this year.
Those of us that were blown away by our first impressions of Bosa the previous 2 seasons, were expecting to see him dominate this year like he did last night. Here's the thing, when I see Ohio State playing a Fraternity or Sorority they should rathouse by 35 points - it's hard to get excited and pumped to watch something that shouldn't challenge them. Maybe 18-21 year old kids have that impacting their game faces too. We've witnessed some head scratch close scores from teams that didn't belong on the same field. Therefore, Bosa hasn't been the only one playing down to the level competition in fairness.
How about MissedAgain losing to Michigan State the way they did yesterday?
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Look, Bosa could flame out in the NFL..nobody knows anything for sure. Courtney Brown was supposed to be the next Reggie White. That being said, when you see a college kid with what appears to be NFL ready speed and power PLUS NFL technique? I'm by no means saying that he'd be doing in the NFL right off the bat what he's doing now ( but he might look at Khalil Mack), but his technique at least is better than anybody on the Browns front 4. The way he slouches off blocks, it's so smooth and effortless looking. Like he doesn't need to tap into his strength reserves. But when he wants to, y'all see what he does with his Bull. He literally deposits OT's in the QB's jock.
The only caveat to drafting him is that we have to properly develop him. If we do as usual he might be marginally effective for a few years, we get rid of him and then he goes somewhere else to start his HOF career.
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Highest graded DE against the run AND pass.
Watching him slide inside to a 3tech and destroy guards with his speed and hands on passing downs.
He reminds me of Michael Bennett. Yes please.
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