could Joey Bosa start for the Browns tommorrow...
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Aside from the 1 game suspension, what red flags?
You've watched Ohio State play this year and you're asking me this? I'm one of many fans in this thread not seeing Bosa playing inspired football against inferior opponents this year, which puts red flags on a gotta have first round prospect at this time. I hope that changes because I was initially very impressed with him.
When we've had guys like Phil Taylor showing up out of shape every year and Josh Gordon remaining suspended for other priorities - I'm going to notice red flags on prospects.
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yeah i actually did not know about his susp against Va tech. I missed that game was out of town. I cannot find anything about what he did, Urbs is keeping the suspension of 4 players during that game closed. Oh well we'll eventually know what it was for cause it has to be disclosed to the NFL prior to the draft. Still want him though. As for his play this year he's constantly within a couple steps of the QB regardless of his sack numbers. Frankly that entire defense looks like it's playing just hard enough to keep the offense ahead, they're playing to be healthy at the end of the season. Also one could probably surmise that Bosa is trying to keep himself healthy cause he's going to be a top 5 pick, cause he seems to dial it up and down at will.
yeah i actually did not know about his susp against Va tech. I missed that game was out of town. I cannot find anything about what he did, Urbs is keeping the suspension of 4 players during that game closed. Oh well we'll eventually know what it was for cause it has to be disclosed to the NFL prior to the draft. Still want him though. As for his play this year he's constantly within a couple steps of the QB regardless of his sack numbers. Frankly that entire defense looks like it's playing just hard enough to keep the offense ahead, they're playing to be healthy at the end of the season. Also one could probably surmise that Bosa is trying to keep himself healthy cause he's going to be a top 5 pick, cause he seems to dial it up and down at will.
Maybe today will bring out the same beast in Bosa that had me constantly saying "WOW!" when I was getting my first impression of him during his Freshman year that continued into his soph season. Last year, he took over the Penn State game when Ohio State needed somebody to step up and provide the winning edge late.
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Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
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Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
Joey has a lot of athletic ability as a pass rusher, he is not a great run stopper. He likes to have a good time off the field.
From the neck up he is well below avg.
If the Browns draft him he will likely be avg./pretty good, some other team, a likely pro-bowler a few times over.
He will never come close to JJ, but who in the H will...
I pretty much agree with this ^^^^^....
He's a real good looking player, but I dont see him anywhere near AJ Watt....and, right now, dont see #1 overall type of play either....
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He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
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These comments are surprising me. I know PFF has him as the highest graded DE in the country so far this year. Also, I have a friend that played for Ohio State for two years (transferred). He keeps up with them pretty closely, and says Bosa's been balling. He also played D End himself so I think he'd know. I'm curious what specifically y'all are seeing.
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What is the point of this?
What is the point of this?
Yeah...what is the point? Our geniuses will pass on him in the draft, anyway. They are smarter than everyone else....remember?
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He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
He's been coasting, tonight proves it. Can't blame the kid, he's got people telling him he's a top 5 pick and they won the title last year. This kid when he turns it on is completely unblockable 1v1. And not a good run stopper? What? Not only does he set the best edge for OSU, he reads the run and throws the guy blocking him right off and gets at least a hit on the runner if not making the tackle. If this is just cause he's been playing inferior talent, than why do none of the other OSU lineman look as good as him? Anyone esle notice everytime Barkely's bounced to the outside it's to the left away from Bosa?
Good post! Yes, I did notice they/Barkely ran away from Bosa. Keep in mind, Bosa took over the game vrs Penn State last year so if he had the same matchup this year - James Franklin was going to have that factored into last night's game plan. I also heard PSU has had trouble protecting their QB this year.
Those of us that were blown away by our first impressions of Bosa the previous 2 seasons, were expecting to see him dominate this year like he did last night. Here's the thing, when I see Ohio State playing a Fraternity or Sorority they should rathouse by 35 points - it's hard to get excited and pumped to watch something that shouldn't challenge them. Maybe 18-21 year old kids have that impacting their game faces too. We've witnessed some head scratch close scores from teams that didn't belong on the same field. Therefore, Bosa hasn't been the only one playing down to the level competition in fairness.
How about MissedAgain losing to Michigan State the way they did yesterday?
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Look, Bosa could flame out in the NFL..nobody knows anything for sure. Courtney Brown was supposed to be the next Reggie White. That being said, when you see a college kid with what appears to be NFL ready speed and power PLUS NFL technique? I'm by no means saying that he'd be doing in the NFL right off the bat what he's doing now ( but he might look at Khalil Mack), but his technique at least is better than anybody on the Browns front 4. The way he slouches off blocks, it's so smooth and effortless looking. Like he doesn't need to tap into his strength reserves. But when he wants to, y'all see what he does with his Bull. He literally deposits OT's in the QB's jock.
The only caveat to drafting him is that we have to properly develop him. If we do as usual he might be marginally effective for a few years, we get rid of him and then he goes somewhere else to start his HOF career.
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Highest graded DE against the run AND pass.
Watching him slide inside to a 3tech and destroy guards with his speed and hands on passing downs.
He reminds me of Michael Bennett. Yes please.
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Highest graded DE against the run AND pass.
Watching him slide inside to a 3tech and destroy guards with his speed and hands on passing downs.
He reminds me of Michael Bennett. Yes please.
Highest graded DE against the run AND pass.
Watching him slide inside to a 3tech and destroy guards with his speed and hands on passing downs.
He reminds me of Michael Bennett. Yes please.
Even the announcers tonight were talking about his hands. THis kid is a freak. Watt may have been physically equal to Bosa at this stage in their careers, but not skill wise. One of the plays that impressed me the most though tonight was a run away from him where he tracked down the line for the solo tackle. His reads off the line are amazing. You can tell that he's a level above all the other defenders in terms of instinctively knowing where the ball is going at the snap. Not that the other OH St guys are bums, but he's just special.
I'm doubling down on my original posit that I based this thread on, I really do honestly believe he could have played for the Browns this year and possibly been a starter by midway through the season. If we draft him next year and turn Armonty and Kruger back to 4-3 DE's we might be able to do something defensively. God I just hope whoever drafts this kid doesn't say hey I know let's make him a standup 3-4 Jack! Indy ruined Bjoern Werner doing that who was also the best DE in football for two years.
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Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
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Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
I don't know if we'll pick at 1 or not, that's where he might go. But I think it's reasonably assurable we'll be picking top 5
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Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
Blowsa for Bosa!
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Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
Blowsa for Bosa!
Blowsa for Bosa!
No thanks, Jar Jar.
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If you're satisfied with picking a lineman rather than an OLB which is a much bigger need, you can get one of Bosa, Nkemdiche, or A'Shawn Robinson pretty much no matter where you pick.
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Will we be picking low enough as he seems to be going top five
I don't know if we'll pick at 1 or not, that's where he might go. But I think it's reasonably assurable we'll be picking top 5
But I think it's reasonably assurable we'll be picking top 5
of course YOU would think that you pessimistic fuck.
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I hope to christ none of my beloved buckeyes get stuck playing for this shit team.
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If you're satisfied with picking a lineman rather than an OLB which is a much bigger need, you can get one of Bosa, Nkemdiche, or A'Shawn Robinson pretty much no matter where you pick.
If you're satisfied with picking a lineman rather than an OLB which is a much bigger need, you can get one of Bosa, Nkemdiche, or A'Shawn Robinson pretty much no matter where you pick.
If the Browns did draft Bosa, Pettine would move him to OLB
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