Tradition aside, would you protest the NFL if they eliminated placekicking?
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No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.
No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.
Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...
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Something that I've thought about for extra points is to do like rugby - the conversion (worth two points, 5 for a try) is taken from as close to the goal line as you want, but it is in line with where the try is scored (or the touchdown is scored). So if you score down the middle, you get an easy chip shot, but if you score in the corner you maybe have a 45-yarder from a narrow angle.
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One old man's opinion....
Do NOT take the foot out of football.
Also, in the thread title, you mention "Tradtion aside..." We need MORE tradition, not less.
Mike
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You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.
WSS
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Exactly what Steve just posted...
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No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.
Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...
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No one talks to their friends about kickers for a reason. Their skill is purely fundamental. Why do we let these no-contact, non-athletes decide almost every game?
Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.
Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.
Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.
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You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.
WSS
You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.
WSS
Last chance TurtleMan. Do we ever want to see 300lbs. Lineman trying to kick it between the Pipes at end of Camp. NNNNOOOOOOO!! Game Over!! đ„·
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Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
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Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.
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Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.
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Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.
Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.
Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.
And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.
The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.
If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.
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Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players
You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much.
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No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.
Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.
Z
I have to admit in over 50 years of watching the NFL, I can't think of another kicker getting a flag thrown for an unnecessary roughness penalty.Zombo said:
Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.
Z
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Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.
And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.
The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.
If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.
And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.
The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.
If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.
So kickers don't work their butt off? They don't take huge hits? I've seen just as many highlight videos of kickers getting blindside blasted as I have wide receivers.
What's the matter, a kicker fuck your boyfriend?
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1. No, they don't. Not nearly to the degree the real players do.
2. Really? Just as many? Even if I accept your premise which I don't, I'm not talking about blindside hits. Many open field tackles are big hits.
3. Not necessary. It's me you're talking to here. I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.
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1. No, they don't. Not nearly to the degree the real players do.
2. Really? Just as many? Even if I accept your premise which I don't, I'm not talking about blindside hits. Many open field tackles are big hits.
3. Not necessary. It's me you're talking to here. I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.
I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.
but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?
i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.
no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?
so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.
where are you living now, flippin mars?
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It's incredible just how many threads when somebody eventually accuses someone they disagree with, of being gay.
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I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.
but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?
i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.
no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?
so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.
where are you living now, flippin mars?
but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?
i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.
no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?
so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.
where are you living now, flippin mars?
To answer your first question: the kicker.
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