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Tradition aside, would you protest the NFL if they eliminated placekicking?

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  • You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

  • Exactly what Steve just posted...

  • @wargograw said:

    No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...

    @nickers said:

    Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...

    Anecdotes are the enemy of real analysis.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    No one talks to their friends about kickers for a reason. Their skill is purely fundamental. Why do we let these no-contact, non-athletes decide almost every game?

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    @wargograw said:

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

  • You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

    Last chance TurtleMan. Do we ever want to see 300lbs. Lineman trying to kick it between the Pipes at end of Camp. NNNNOOOOOOO!! Game Over!! 🥷

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

  • @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

    @mark-o said:

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

    Or if he had any GHB in his system

  • @wargograw said:

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much.

  • @wargograw said:

    No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.

    Z

    I have to admit in over 50 years of watching the NFL, I can't think of another kicker getting a flag thrown for an unnecessary roughness penalty.
  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

    @wargograw said:

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

    So kickers don't work their butt off? They don't take huge hits? I've seen just as many highlight videos of kickers getting blindside blasted as I have wide receivers.

    What's the matter, a kicker fuck your boyfriend?

  • 1. No, they don't. Not nearly to the degree the real players do.

    2. Really? Just as many? Even if I accept your premise which I don't, I'm not talking about blindside hits. Many open field tackles are big hits.

    3. Not necessary. It's me you're talking to here. I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.

  • 1. No, they don't. Not nearly to the degree the real players do.

    2. Really? Just as many? Even if I accept your premise which I don't, I'm not talking about blindside hits. Many open field tackles are big hits.

    3. Not necessary. It's me you're talking to here. I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.

    @wargograw said:

    I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.

    but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?

    i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.

    no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?

    so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.

    where are you living now, flippin mars?

  • It's incredible just how many threads when somebody eventually accuses someone they disagree with, of being gay.

  • @wargograw said:

    I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do.

    but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?

    i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.

    no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?

    so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.

    where are you living now, flippin mars?

    @miktoxic said:

    but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game?

    i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game.

    no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD?

    so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool.

    where are you living now, flippin mars?

    To answer your first question: the kicker.

  • to answer the last question, surely he does....

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  • @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much.

    @wargograw said:

    You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much.

    I get the "I will argue my point with rhetoric" idea but Janikowski is 6'1 260 with a history of bar room brawls. I'd go out on a limb and say I could kick Travis Benjamin's ass.

  • Maybe, but he definitely could not catch it...