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Tradition aside, would you protest the NFL if they eliminated placekicking?

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  • Why not eliminate the 6 points for a touchdown?

    Just issue participation trophies, so nobody wins, and nobody loses.

    Then trolls would have no reason to come here and stink up the board.

    And, during the game, on every play not a touchdown, they could just line up,

    and the captains of each team on offense...could just roll dice, and as long as they roll

    a double, they get double participation points. But the team with more participation

    points, would lose a turn until the other team catches up....

    Well, that would make all the pansies happy.

    Our country is just headed in a bad direction. Old school ROCKS - it's time tested,

    blood sweat and tears tempered, a couple of centuries to build it.

    Well, dropping the extra is just plain stupid.

  • A team winning because the other team's kicker missed a FG is much closer to participation trophy than a team actually having to win with their gladiators.

  • Fundamental part of the game. I enjoy the kicking aspect.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Fundamental part of the game. I enjoy the kicking aspect.

    Nailed it...

    @mudfly said:

    wouldnt change a thing....except maybe bring back the drop kick... 😉

    It is still a thing, isn't it? I know Fluties kicked one for the Pats IIRC a while ago.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Just saw a window for a joke. Not seriously bashing anyone.

    Agree... a serious bash would have worked "the gf" into it somehow.

  • Is the game decided by the kicker or the QB and offense who have gone 60 yards down the field to get into range?

    It's of course the latter.

  • No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    @wargograw said:

    No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...

  • Something that I've thought about for extra points is to do like rugby - the conversion (worth two points, 5 for a try) is taken from as close to the goal line as you want, but it is in line with where the try is scored (or the touchdown is scored). So if you score down the middle, you get an easy chip shot, but if you score in the corner you maybe have a 45-yarder from a narrow angle.

  • One old man's opinion....

    Do NOT take the foot out of football.

    Also, in the thread title, you mention "Tradtion aside..." We need MORE tradition, not less.

    Mike

  • You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

  • Exactly what Steve just posted...

  • @wargograw said:

    No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...

    @nickers said:

    Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass...

    Anecdotes are the enemy of real analysis.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    No one talks to their friends about kickers for a reason. Their skill is purely fundamental. Why do we let these no-contact, non-athletes decide almost every game?

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    @wargograw said:

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

  • You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question.

    WSS

    Last chance TurtleMan. Do we ever want to see 300lbs. Lineman trying to kick it between the Pipes at end of Camp. NNNNOOOOOOO!! Game Over!! 🥷

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

  • @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

    @mark-o said:

    Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day.

    Or if he had any GHB in his system

  • @wargograw said:

    Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous.

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

  • Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    @baconhound said:

    Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players

    You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much.

  • @wargograw said:

    No, it's not easy, and they're wimps, so they shouldn't control the outcome of the game.

    Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could.

    Z

    I have to admit in over 50 years of watching the NFL, I can't think of another kicker getting a flag thrown for an unnecessary roughness penalty.
  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs.

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

    @wargograw said:

    And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc.

    The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator.

    If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team.

    So kickers don't work their butt off? They don't take huge hits? I've seen just as many highlight videos of kickers getting blindside blasted as I have wide receivers.

    What's the matter, a kicker fuck your boyfriend?