Gruden
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I was saying it in the Tavern last night. Gruden honestly seemed like he was lobbying for a job next year.
I don't see why he'd ever leave his cushy broadcasting job, but there were multiple hints that he could. The fact that there's tons of articles out there about it only reinforce that we're not alone in seeing it.
I was saying it in the Tavern last night. Gruden honestly seemed like he was lobbying for a job next year.
I don't see why he'd ever leave his cushy broadcasting job, but there were multiple hints that he could. The fact that there's tons of articles out there about it only reinforce that we're not alone in seeing it.
And, besides, I think he's an excellent live commentator.
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Chucky got the Tampa job after coaching Da Raidah's to competency -
I am ok with Pettine coming back, but he's had the "Oh Shit This Has Gotten Away From Me" vibe creep into his last presser. He looks bewildered, or as Led Zeppelin would say Dazed and Confused. If I'm in Haslam's shoes i am more worried about Pettines demeanor. That may be why he gets fired.
He had the look of a beaten man Monday.
Farmer has to go. It would have been better to have fired Farmer some weeks back to start the next search.
At this point, if Chucky would come here, why not?
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We could lure Jon with the promise of changing the team name to "The Cleveland Grudens".
Might stroke his ego enough... but I doubt it.
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The one big plus I see for Gruden would be his ability to draw players and coaches here that we haven't had a chance to get the past few years. Hire another nobody, and Berea will be a ghost town.
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Anyway, I'm in favor of firing Gruden after he wins a Super Bowl in Cleveland.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
Sure you can.......you dont have to fire Pettine to start looking.....and you can call anyone, provided they aren't under contract with another team......
And....if you want.....you can even contact employed Coaches to discuss HC jobs, provided they aren't already HC's.......
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They really pay him 6.5? That's ridiculous.
Regardless, coaches love to coach. They're driven. They wanna compete and they wanna win. Tennessee gave ole Derek Dooley the severance package of a lifetime. He could be on a beach sipping margaritas every day. You know what he's doing? Coaching receivers for the Cowboys.
You think if we buy Pettine out this year that he wouldn't immediately go get another football job? Isn't sitting around at home more "cush" than working 16 hour days in New Orleans or wherever? Sure it is. But he's going to coach football because he loves it.
Does Gruden want it enough to leave broadcasting? Let's find out.
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I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
Sure you can.......you dont have to fire Pettine to start looking.....and you can call anyone, provided they aren't under contract with another team......
And....if you want.....you can even contact employed Coaches to discuss HC jobs, provided they aren't already HC's.......
And....if you want.....you can even contact employed Coaches to discuss HC jobs, provided they aren't already HC's.......
Need current team's permission to talk to any NFL coach under contract...
Came across a fairly interesting article on searching for HCs and GMs...
On the Hunt for Greatness
When teams begin firing coaches and front office staff—as the Colts, Lions and Titans have already done—headhunters like Jed Hughes are called in to help them fill the positions. Inside the search for the next great coach or GM
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/11/05/mmqb-talking-football-coaches-fired-jed-hughes-nfl-headhunter
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And....if you want.....you can even contact employed Coaches to discuss HC jobs, provided they aren't already HC's.......
Need current team's permission to talk to any NFL coach under contract...
Came across a fairly interesting article on searching for HCs and GMs...
On the Hunt for Greatness
When teams begin firing coaches and front office staff—as the Colts, Lions and Titans have already done—headhunters like Jed Hughes are called in to help them fill the positions. Inside the search for the next great coach or GM
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/11/05/mmqb-talking-football-coaches-fired-jed-hughes-nfl-headhunter
Need current team's permission to talk to any NFL coach under contract...
Yes and No.....for lateral moves you need permission.....and promoting a position coach to Coordinator, you need permission...
But ANY coach getting PROMOTED to Hc....can talk w/o permission.....anytime.....
So what are the rules for NFL teams allowing their assistant coaches to talk to other teams about jobs? The rule is pretty simple. A team can’t block an assistant coach, including a coordinator, from interviewing for and accepting a job as a head coach. All other moves, including from assistant coach to coordinator, can be blocked.
Obviously, if we ask for permission, while Pettine is still here,,,,then that would get out and create bad PR....but it is allowed....
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guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
Inconceivable how some of you don't understand that. You think we can just recycle coaching staffs every 1-2 years. Marvin Lewis has been on the hotseat with that fanbase for like a decade. Reason the Bengals are top of the North right now is that ownership doesn't give a shit what feckless fans want.
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guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
Inconceivable how some of you don't understand that. You think we can just recycle coaching staffs every 1-2 years. Marvin Lewis has been on the hotseat with that fanbase for like a decade. Reason the Bengals are top of the North right now is that ownership doesn't give a shit what feckless fans want.
guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
They're probably cool with getting canned 1-2 years in, they're still paid for the 4-5 years anyway
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guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
They're probably cool with getting canned 1-2 years in, they're still paid for the 4-5 years anyway
They're probably cool with getting canned 1-2 years in, they're still paid for the 4-5 years anyway
Not in the case of a coach like Gruden. He doesn't want this kind of debacle on his record. Look at some of our past hires that were considered by the league as promising young talent. Mangini has barely been heard of, same with Chud. Isn't SHurm a coordinator somewhere?
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guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
Inconceivable how some of you don't understand that. You think we can just recycle coaching staffs every 1-2 years. Marvin Lewis has been on the hotseat with that fanbase for like a decade. Reason the Bengals are top of the North right now is that ownership doesn't give a shit what feckless fans want.
guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
Inconceivable how some of you don't understand that. You think we can just recycle coaching staffs every 1-2 years. Marvin Lewis has been on the hotseat with that fanbase for like a decade. Reason the Bengals are top of the North right now is that ownership doesn't give a shit what feckless fans want.
Marvin Lewis has also only had 3 sub-.500 seasons in his entire career.
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guys, legit coaches...that will go to a team for no other reason than to win with that team and for that city...aren't going to go there without a 4-5 year plan. No coach is coming here knowing he won't get halfway into that plan. Nobody. Only people that will come here are CFL and college coaches wnting to get their dicks wet in the bigs.
Inconceivable how some of you don't understand that. You think we can just recycle coaching staffs every 1-2 years. Marvin Lewis has been on the hotseat with that fanbase for like a decade. Reason the Bengals are top of the North right now is that ownership doesn't give a shit what feckless fans want.
Marvin Lewis has also only had 3 sub-.500 seasons in his entire career.
Marvin Lewis has also only had 3 sub-.500 seasons in his entire career.
and yet hes somehow on the hotseat every yea cause .500 aint good enough for cincy fans
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Marvin Lewis has also only had 3 sub-.500 seasons in his entire career.
and yet hes somehow on the hotseat every yea cause .500 aint good enough for cincy fans
and yet hes somehow on the hotseat every yea cause .500 aint good enough for cincy fans
There's a difference between being on the "hotseat" for having a .500 season and what we currently have.
Someone also tried to equate Mike Pettine to Ron Rivera the other day, talking about how Carolina almost fired him and now look at them. The situations aren't even close.
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They really pay him 6.5? That's ridiculous.
Regardless, coaches love to coach. They're driven. They wanna compete and they wanna win. Tennessee gave ole Derek Dooley the severance package of a lifetime. He could be on a beach sipping margaritas every day. You know what he's doing? Coaching receivers for the Cowboys.
You think if we buy Pettine out this year that he wouldn't immediately go get another football job? Isn't sitting around at home more "cush" than working 16 hour days in New Orleans or wherever? Sure it is. But he's going to coach football because he loves it.
Does Gruden want it enough to leave broadcasting? Let's find out.
They really pay him 6.5? That's ridiculous.
Regardless, coaches love to coach. They're driven. They wanna compete and they wanna win. Tennessee gave ole Derek Dooley the severance package of a lifetime. He could be on a beach sipping margaritas every day. You know what he's doing? Coaching receivers for the Cowboys.
Reportedly, he's one of, if not the highest paid broadcaster/announcer at ESPN. That's the beauty of the gig he's got. He's perfectly happy to keep broadcasting games but if the right situation comes along he has the out to take the HC job somewhere. Is our job the right situation for him?? Who knows...maybe it is. He's going to want full control and can't blow him out in 2 seasons like everyone else.
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