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  • top two, top five...I don't care, they pick in the top something.

    But winning sets the stage for what's possible next season, with

    some changes, including a few more players to make the difference.

  • As much as I can't stand WW I have to agree the team played with more energy and focus than I've all year. Is it because of Johnny? Maybe. Maybe they had a good week of practice, maybe they thought a 4 win team was beatable and got pumped. Maybe the loss to Cinci was their rock bottom and they finally got fed up (Bryant's post game interview suggested that). JM is the QB for the next three games and if you are a Browns fan you should at least reserve judgement until the season is over.

  • @canton-mike said:

    That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    @tour2ma said:

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    Damnit Tour. Logic is not allowed here..

  • Johnny didn't make the run game happen.

    The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.

    I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns

    had more confidence they could take the game.

    They just didn't look that way last week.

  • @canton-mike said:

    That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    @tour2ma said:

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

  • Updated NFL Draft order through 13 games (MNF/SNF won't change this):

    1. #Titans

    2. #Browns

    3. #Chargers

    4. #Ravens

  • Johnny didn't make the run game happen.

    The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.

    I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns

    had more confidence they could take the game.

    They just didn't look that way last week.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Johnny didn't make the run game happen.

    The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.

    I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns

    had more confidence they could take the game.

    They just didn't look that way last week.

    More power running and traps between the tackles less stretch running plays
  • @tour2ma said:

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    @wargograw said:

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    Compare ypc then. Same difference.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    The point is that the reason he has to extend the play is that he is incapable of going through progressions the way the play was designed.

    Every time he runs around in the pocket, instead of saying "that's nifty" you should be asking "How many open Browns routes did he not recognize correctly, and why is he showing his back to his receivers"

    Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.

    This is Johnnys like 6th career start? Give it a break

    @walterwhite said:

    Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.

    And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?

    10%.

    Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.

    Manziel still isn't a competent QB.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.

    yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .

    @soju said:

    yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .

    That is Johnny boy's stache.

    Also, you do realize that the next few games are to have Manziel prove he can lead the team? Yeah, I will be happy when Manziel wins and shows that the team can have some stability at a position that has plagued the team for years.

    But don't let me stand in the way of your fit, Sally.

  • @wargograw said:

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    Compare ypc then. Same difference.

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    Compare ypc then. Same difference.

    Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....

  • @walterwhite said:

    Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.

    And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?

    10%.

    Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.

    Manziel still isn't a competent QB.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game

    Oh it can be.............. for a game or two. Those QBs that rely on that as a major part of their game all have one thing in common - the "ex" - in front of 'ex-NFL Starting QB'.

  • @tour2ma said:

    So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    @wargograw said:

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    @wargograw said:

    Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....

    Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?

    You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?

  • @walterwhite said:

    Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.

    And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?

    10%.

    Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.

    Manziel still isn't a competent QB.

    @unsympathetic said:

    And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?

    10%.

    Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.

    Manziel still isn't a competent QB.

    You're an idiot.

  • @wargograw said:

    You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?

    @wargograw said:

    Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....

    Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?

    You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?

    @tour2ma said:

    Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?

    You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?

    So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?

  • Manziel's energy says zero about the accuracy&precision with which he goes through his progressions.

    His desire to "get something done" leaves INT's like today's even when he should have enough pride to not try to "force" something that isn't needed.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Manziel's energy says zero about the accuracy&precision with which he goes through his progressions.

    His desire to "get something done" leaves INT's like today's even when he should have enough pride to not try to "force" something that isn't needed.

    Hey, the "bad" int he just didn't get enough velocity on the ball to get it done. The receiver was initially open.

    @unsympathetic said:

    The point is that the reason he has to extend the play is that he is incapable of going through progressions the way the play was designed.

    Every time he runs around in the pocket, instead of saying "that's nifty" you should be asking "How many open Browns routes did he not recognize correctly, and why is he showing his back to his receivers"

    How many times, when they showed the wide field, JFF had to run around because absolutely no one was open?

    @opal312 said:

    All we get is the Red Zone! They didn't show anything! I wanted to know how the running game came to life today after disappearing all season?

    A great mystery of life. Actual holes suddenly appeared. O-line was getting positive push. Now if that was because the 49ers sucked, I suppose we'll find out next week if that was a mirage.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?

    You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?

    So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?

    @wargograw said:

    So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?

    If you can make that case, it'd help your argument, I guess. I'll wait...

  • I've been saying it all year... Manziel is the catalyst for our team. He's magic.

  • He's young and remembers how to be a winner. Positive energy rubs off on other players. They play with more intensity. Wish we would have played him all year. The games might have been closer and more fun to watch. Isn't that why Haslam drafted him? To fill up the stadium. Pettine wasted the year away while playing "Good Cop Bad Cop" let him play. No one ever got better on the bench.