Jonathan Paul Manziel
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That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
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Updated NFL Draft order through 13 games (MNF/SNF won't change this):
1. #Titans
2. #Browns
3. #Chargers
4. #Ravens
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Johnny didn't make the run game happen.
The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.
I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns
had more confidence they could take the game.
They just didn't look that way last week.
More power running and traps between the tackles less stretch running playsJohnny didn't make the run game happen.
The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.
I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns
had more confidence they could take the game.
They just didn't look that way last week.
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You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
Compare ypc then. Same difference.
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The point is that the reason he has to extend the play is that he is incapable of going through progressions the way the play was designed.
Every time he runs around in the pocket, instead of saying "that's nifty" you should be asking "How many open Browns routes did he not recognize correctly, and why is he showing his back to his receivers"
Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
This is Johnnys like 6th career start? Give it a break
Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?
10%.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .
yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .
That is Johnny boy's stache.
Also, you do realize that the next few games are to have Manziel prove he can lead the team? Yeah, I will be happy when Manziel wins and shows that the team can have some stability at a position that has plagued the team for years.
But don't let me stand in the way of your fit, Sally.
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You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
Compare ypc then. Same difference.
Compare ypc then. Same difference.
Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....
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Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?
10%.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game
Oh it can be.............. for a game or two. Those QBs that rely on that as a major part of their game all have one thing in common - the "ex" - in front of 'ex-NFL Starting QB'.
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You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....
Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?
You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?
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Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?
10%.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.
And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?
10%.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.
You're an idiot.
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You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
Yeah that never increases with the carry count or anything....
Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?
You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?
Like it did today when we had to wait for Crow's 4th carry to see his first 50-yarder?
You really don't want to claim our run game has been nail we have just refused to hammer, do you?
So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?
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Manziel's energy says zero about the accuracy&precision with which he goes through his progressions.
His desire to "get something done" leaves INT's like today's even when he should have enough pride to not try to "force" something that isn't needed.
Manziel's energy says zero about the accuracy&precision with which he goes through his progressions.
His desire to "get something done" leaves INT's like today's even when he should have enough pride to not try to "force" something that isn't needed.
Hey, the "bad" int he just didn't get enough velocity on the ball to get it done. The receiver was initially open.
The point is that the reason he has to extend the play is that he is incapable of going through progressions the way the play was designed.
Every time he runs around in the pocket, instead of saying "that's nifty" you should be asking "How many open Browns routes did he not recognize correctly, and why is he showing his back to his receivers"
How many times, when they showed the wide field, JFF had to run around because absolutely no one was open?
All we get is the Red Zone! They didn't show anything! I wanted to know how the running game came to life today after disappearing all season?
A great mystery of life. Actual holes suddenly appeared. O-line was getting positive push. Now if that was because the 49ers sucked, I suppose we'll find out next week if that was a mirage.
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So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?
If you can make that case, it'd help your argument, I guess. I'll wait...
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He's young and remembers how to be a winner. Positive energy rubs off on other players. They play with more intensity. Wish we would have played him all year. The games might have been closer and more fun to watch. Isn't that why Haslam drafted him? To fill up the stadium. Pettine wasted the year away while playing "Good Cop Bad Cop" let him play. No one ever got better on the bench.
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So are you arguing chunk gains are not more common later in the game?
If you can make that case, it'd help your argument, I guess. I'll wait...
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when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
Like we have progressed so much with the higher draft pics right kimchee breath?
Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
now THAT is priceless.
i don't think even the 'haters' (like myself) hate manziel. i just want him to prove to me, the media and to the world why he was worthy of our 1st round pick before he says he'll 'break the league (with his talent)' running around like a fool and doing the money sign as he gets run over by a linebacker.
wasn't able to see the game but met with a client where red zone was on and even THEY shied away from showing any manziel 'action'. i guess they've been burned too many times as well. but this club where i was at is notorious for being a 'legends' type sports club where their patrons know more about football than walter knows about sucking eggs. the first thing out of the old bartender's mouth seeing me walk in when the browns were already up by 7 was " johnny. the kids a millionaire. he needs rehab and a bodyguard. i'd tell my bodyguard to knock me out if went out and started to fuck up!" etc. etc. to which i said "maybe he should just stay home in his mansion and stay out of the spotlight"(which i've said from day one).
glad the browns won. maybe manziel IS the guy? who knows? but in sports i'll take young over old any day. showing improvement is another check on the list. but to say right this second that he is the franchise QB of the browns going forward is a stretch. BUT continue to show improvement against the tougher opponents and he WILL earn trust and respect from even his most hating of the haters.
but his performance wasn't the biggest thing to happen in our division yesterday.....
mccarron sucks bags. how can anyone (FO) trust anything that comes out of alabama anymore?
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I'm not a big fan of JF, and I'm not a hater, either. I wasn't able to see the game, but heard some of it on the radio. Either the team has had a resurgance with Manziel in there or the 49ers are way much worse than I thought. I hope Manziel continues to play well, so we can draft someone other than a qb. It looks like he continues to improve, and I would have no problem with going 3 - 13, then keeping him in there as the starter, as long as he plays well in the last 3 games. The only thing that scares me, if that plays out....it's going to be a looong off season, with a lot of opportunities for JF to display his partying habits.
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when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
Like we have progressed so much with the higher draft pics right kimchee breath?
Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
now THAT is priceless.
i don't think even the 'haters' (like myself) hate manziel. i just want him to prove to me, the media and to the world why he was worthy of our 1st round pick before he says he'll 'break the league (with his talent)' running around like a fool and doing the money sign as he gets run over by a linebacker.
wasn't able to see the game but met with a client where red zone was on and even THEY shied away from showing any manziel 'action'. i guess they've been burned too many times as well. but this club where i was at is notorious for being a 'legends' type sports club where their patrons know more about football than walter knows about sucking eggs. the first thing out of the old bartender's mouth seeing me walk in when the browns were already up by 7 was " johnny. the kids a millionaire. he needs rehab and a bodyguard. i'd tell my bodyguard to knock me out if went out and started to fuck up!" etc. etc. to which i said "maybe he should just stay home in his mansion and stay out of the spotlight"(which i've said from day one).
glad the browns won. maybe manziel IS the guy? who knows? but in sports i'll take young over old any day. showing improvement is another check on the list. but to say right this second that he is the franchise QB of the browns going forward is a stretch. BUT continue to show improvement against the tougher opponents and he WILL earn trust and respect from even his most hating of the haters.
but his performance wasn't the biggest thing to happen in our division yesterday.....
mccarron sucks bags. how can anyone (FO) trust anything that comes out of alabama anymore?
now THAT is priceless.
i don't think even the 'haters' (like myself) hate manziel. i just want him to prove to me, the media and to the world why he was worthy of our 1st round pick before he says he'll 'break the league (with his talent)' running around like a fool and doing the money sign as he gets run over by a linebacker.
wasn't able to see the game but met with a client where red zone was on and even THEY shied away from showing any manziel 'action'. i guess they've been burned too many times as well. but this club where i was at is notorious for being a 'legends' type sports club where their patrons know more about football than walter knows about sucking eggs. the first thing out of the old bartender's mouth seeing me walk in when the browns were already up by 7 was " johnny. the kids a millionaire. he needs rehab and a bodyguard. i'd tell my bodyguard to knock me out if went out and started to fuck up!" etc. etc. to which i said "maybe he should just stay home in his mansion and stay out of the spotlight"(which i've said from day one).
glad the browns won. maybe manziel IS the guy? who knows? but in sports i'll take young over old any day. showing improvement is another check on the list. but to say right this second that he is the franchise QB of the browns going forward is a stretch. BUT continue to show improvement against the tougher opponents and he WILL earn trust and respect from even his most hating of the haters.
but his performance wasn't the biggest thing to happen in our division yesterday.....
mccarron sucks bags. how can anyone (FO) trust anything that comes out of alabama anymore?
Oh, I don't know. CJ Mosely, Marcell Dareus, Eddie Lacy, TJ Yeldon, Rolando McClain, Mark Barron, James Carpenter, Jalston Fowler, Amari Cooper, Kareem Jackson, Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, Dre Kirkpatrick, Andre Smith, Courtney Upshaw, Chance Warmack? Far as I know they're all starting and range from average to elite. No one expected McCarron to be worth anything in the NFL, for the most part.
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