Browns might face NFL's biggest overhaul
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Enjoyed the win, but a single win vs a very bad team doesn't change what's going to happen on Black Monday. I don't know which heads are going to roll, but rest assured, head(s) will roll.
The swings and misses on the 1st round alone are unforgivable, and are beyond cause for termination......... Factor in Bowe and Text Gate, and I believe I have an idea which head will fall into the bucket.
When all is said and done, it's an absolute embarrassment what this organization did with 4 total 1st round picks - 2 picks in back-to-back years no less. Whoever is responsible, set the franchise back for many years.
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I don't see that Mic. Don't forget, you are supposed to enjoy a win. Right?
i should have put that in pink.
i enjoy wins more than most on this board. when people constantly try to find something to make themselves upset...........i'm the other guy who tries to find good in everything (even if it's an ex who took you to the cleaners for 500k+ but she's the mother of your kids). yeah that's me. mr. sunshine!!
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The Browns aren't anywhere near being the biggest overhaul.
There are many teams who need to fix their offensive and defensive lines,
in addition to having other weaknesses.
The Browns don't have elite playmakers on offense - except for Barnidge,
and maybe Travis.
They have a few cbs who may very well come into their own, and be very, very good.
I wasn't thinkin of Gilbert when I just said that....
We just have to draft a qb with our first pick in the draft....but I'm only saying that to make
Canton Mike spit out his coffee and call me to yell at me....lol...
I believe, still, that the coaches have made some changes in how they are doing things.
We'll see the next couple of games. If Tour is right, and they haven't...
well, it will be ugly the rest of the season. The players have played very tough and hard all season.
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Yes, I was rambling.... the Browns don't need a major overhaul of their oline and dline
like plenty of other teams do. That means the Browns don't have to have
a major overhaul...but they do need some playmakers on offense at wr.
That make more sense? lol
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Yeah, a huge overhaul is certainly possible, but I like to think that a small one can happen to. New OL coach, new defensive coordinator, and new GM. Well, that's not exactly small, but whatever. LOL. And I know every team can play the "what if game", but we have some intriguing "what ifs" of our own.
What if Josh Gordon can be the guy we hope he is?
What if Ekpre-Olomu emmerges as a serious player?
What if Johnny continues to progress and McCown comes back as the backup?
Those are just a few, but our team could look completely different with just a few things going our way.
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Why is it a given that Pet and Farmer cannot co-exist?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Cares? Besides me?
Maybe the guy who was a proponent of installing a POFO?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Why is it a given that Pet and Farmer cannot co-exist?
Well.. If you believe some reports... That Pet and Farmer have "Issues".. Then it makes sense not to keep them together..Pet was not Farmers choice to start with.....
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Cares? Besides me?
Maybe the guy who was a proponent of installing a POFO?
Yea, we need a POFO......and one who probably also care whether or not these two can get along....as one or both would be gone.
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but he was Haslem choice and no one else'sWell.. If you believe some reports... That Pet and Farmer have "Issues".. Then it makes sense not to keep them together..Pet was not Farmers choice to start with.....
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
In a nutshell this article explains why the Browns will never win...until it stops hitting the RESET BUTTON every other year.
This clip from Mike & Mike on ESPN says it perfectly -----> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14311216
This state the Browns have been in since 1999 is not a player issue, IT"S THE WHOLE DAMN FRANCHISE. Three different owners who weren't equipped enough to manage a Burger King, 7 different GMs, 8 Head Coaches, 24 starting quarterbacks....Dear God!!!
And people wonder why we can't get to .500, why we can't beat Pittsburgh. Newsflash: the Steelers are worlds apart on how to run a successful sports franchise, so are Baltimore and Cincinnati.
So when people ask when will things start changing for the Browns my response is...When things stop changing with the Browns (i.e. consistency)
“Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up” -
Along that same line of a disconnect.
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but he was Haslem choice and no one else's
Wasn't Farmer assistant GM when Pettine was hired?
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I think Gordon gets it.
Gordon for All-Pro 2016.
I really don't think anyone who's an out-of-control partyer would do anything that link presents.. In poker, that's a tell.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
In a nutshell this article explains why the Browns will never win...until it stops hitting the RESET BUTTON every other year.
This clip from Mike & Mike on ESPN says it perfectly -----> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14311216
This state the Browns have been in since 1999 is not a player issue, IT"S THE WHOLE DAMN FRANCHISE. Three different owners who weren't equipped enough to manage a Burger King, 7 different GMs, 8 Head Coaches, 24 starting quarterbacks....Dear God!!!
And people wonder why we can't get to .500, why we can't beat Pittsburgh. Newsflash: the Steelers are worlds apart on how to run a successful sports franchise, so are Baltimore and Cincinnati.
So when people ask when will things start changing for the Browns my response is...When things stop changing with the Browns (i.e. consistency)
In a nutshell this article explains why the Browns will never win...until it stops hitting the RESET BUTTON every other year.
This clip from Mike & Mike on ESPN says it perfectly -----> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14311216
This state the Browns have been in since 1999 is not a player issue, IT"S THE WHOLE DAMN FRANCHISE. Three different owners who weren't equipped enough to manage a Burger King, 7 different GMs, 8 Head Coaches, 24 starting quarterbacks....Dear God!!!
And people wonder why we can't get to .500, why we can't beat Pittsburgh. Newsflash: the Steelers are worlds apart on how to run a successful sports franchise, so are Baltimore and Cincinnati.
So when people ask when will things start changing for the Browns my response is...When things stop changing with the Browns (i.e. consistency)
So......your way is to stick with guys that are totally inept in their jobs. Check.
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Yea, we need a POFO......and one who probably also care whether or not these two can get along....as one or both would be gone.
Or he'd mediate their disagreements thus ensuring communication is occurring and use their competitiveness to advantage.
The idea that people who do not "get along" can't work together is ludicrous. Add that the source of the tension is the disappointment of their combined output and each has a stake in the perception of that combined result, and the strain is understandable.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yea, we need a POFO......and one who probably also care whether or not these two can get along....as one or both would be gone.
Or he'd mediate their disagreements thus ensuring communication is occurring and use their competitiveness to advantage.
The idea that people who do not "get along" can't work together is ludicrous. Add that the source of the tension is the disappointment of their combined output and each has a stake in the perception of that combined result, and the strain is understandable.
Or he'd mediate their disagreements thus ensuring communication is occurring and use their competitiveness to advantage.
Sure....he would do that....if he kept both guys on....but I would not really see that happening if a POFO were hired.
The idea that people who do not "get along" can't work together is ludicrous.
I agree.....and I don't think that these guys "not getting along" is the reason this team has done poorly. They could have been singing Kumbaya together and still done very poorly.
Add that the source of the tension is the disappointment of their combined output and each has a stake in the perception of that combined result, and the strain is understandable.
If they had won more games....they would have reduced the strain.
Games were not won because of their poor personnel choices and poor coaching tactics.....not because they didn't get along.
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