Iowa Caucus
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Huckabee and Santorum have won Iowa before. I don't put much thought into how Iowa Republicans feel.
That said, Hillary can't be happy about basically tying with Sanders. I could see a situation where the youth vote buries her.
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Sanders did very well but not well enough. It's hard to get people who vote primarily on the basis of more free shit to actually get off the couch and go vote.
Trump did get a significant boost later on.
I wasn't really surprised by Ted Cruz but he is still just too goofy in my opinion to get very far. Looks like Rubio has got a good chance to sneak in and win it.
I agree with whoever said Rubio is Bush, but Rubio is younger and fresher without the bush baggage or the phenobarbital personality.
One thing that keeps me from being more of a trump supporter is his lack of substance. Frankly I don't think any presidential candidate knows enough to formulate a policy but he should have enough advisors to give him some talking points.
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Considering hillary had basically a hundred point lead a year ago (no serious opposition) anything other than a crushing victory feels like a defeat for her. She may well go on to win the nomination, but it won't be with the overwhelming backing of the party as she'd hoped.
Alternatively, those people saying 'bernie can't win' might see that actually, he can definitely win, at least the nomination, and come out to vote for him, and Hillary is prevented once again from her 'divine right' presidency.
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
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Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.
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Caucuses are not winner take all AFAIK.
Cruz got like 1 more delegate than Trump and Rubio if I'm not mistaken.
Bernie may have gotten the same or more as Clinton.
Delegates is really all that matters, but it's more interesting to see Rubio/Trump split the self identifying moderate vote. I think it's going to be a two man race after new Hampshire.
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Trump will go on to win the nomination. Iowa is meaningless. Sanders will upset Hitlery. Trump will crush Sanders. Bank it.
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
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The latest bunch of emails Clinton was found to have on her own personal unsecured server was the most confidential there is and lives were put at risk by her negligence. If the FBI refers Clinton to the DOJ for prosecution and the Obama Justice Dept doesn't act on it there will be a huge uproar that cannot be ignored and the atty general will be subpoenaed before congress to answer why.
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All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?
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I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.
WSS
Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.
Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.
I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?
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By the way most likely my three favorites will be abandoning the quest soon enough, Fiorina, Christy and Kasich.
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Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.
I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?
WSS
I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?
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Probably Rand Paul. Jeb seems a bit of a puppet, another who seeks a 'divine right' presidency.
It would be hilarious, btw, if after all the birther nonsense from parts of the right about Obama, if the republican nominee ends up being 'Rafael' Cruz, someone verifiably born in a different country.
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All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?
All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?
Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.
Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.
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All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?
Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.
Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.
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Cruz is a bizarre guy. If you get a chance, check out the behind the scenes of his campaign commercials. He makes his own family uncomfortable.
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All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?
Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.
Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.
Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.
Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.
I think that's his point - that Cruz is the bible thumping conservative in this case that shouldn't win the nomination, because a more moderate candidate is needed in november; and that more moderate candidate was McCain and Romney, who both solidly lost, so why try the same thing again? Why not go with Cruz?
At least, I think that's the logic. I'm not sure I agree with it, but that's the logic.
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True enough, Ted Cruz is a religious guy but he seems more focused on politics than religion compared to Huckabee and Santorum.
One thing I believe is coming home to roost for Donald Trump is that even though conservatives and outsiders like his brash appeal they have to consider his liberal history.
WSS
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True enough, Ted Cruz is a religious guy but he seems more focused on politics than religion compared to Huckabee and Santorum.
One thing I believe is coming home to roost for Donald Trump is that even though conservatives and outsiders like his brash appeal they have to consider his liberal history.
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One thing I believe is coming home to roost for Donald Trump is that even though conservatives and outsiders like his brash appeal they have to consider his liberal history.
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A part of me has always thought of him as just a plant. Trump was a run-of-the-mill liberal guy and then out of nowhere he is an arch conservative.
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One thing I believe is coming home to roost for Donald Trump is that even though conservatives and outsiders like his brash appeal they have to consider his liberal history.
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A part of me has always thought of him as just a plant. Trump was a run-of-the-mill liberal guy and then out of nowhere he is an arch conservative.
A part of me has always thought of him as just a plant. Trump was a run-of-the-mill liberal guy and then out of nowhere he is an arch conservative.
Surely not, it's not likely he's particularly close with any of the democratic front runners, or personally endorsed any of them in the past, right? Oh wait...
Yeah, part of me is waiting for him to just pull out and leave the republicans in total disarray, having spent 6 months focussing on shutting him down and not the actual problems.
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I think Cruz got 8 delegates, Trump/Rubio got 7 each, Carson got 1 or 2, Paul got 1. Really it's more like a 3 way tie than anything, though other states are winner-take-all.
Huckabee and O'Malley dropped out, I expect a Huckabee/Trump endorsement after the veterans event and the things Huck said about Cruz.
Rubio/McCain/Romney/Bush are all pretty much the same person to me - hate em all, except for the pre-2008 McCain was alright.
Cruz invested his entire campaign in Iowa and it was the only state he was competitive, will probably stay that way.
Trump isn't a plant, but he isn't conservative. He's a nationalist and that's why so many people like him - he has liberal, moderate, and conservative ideas all mixed in together. His potential downfall is the lack of a ground game - he doesn't have enough people phone banking and sending mail, knocking on doors like Cruz/Rubio do. Depending on how NH plays out it may turn into a major mistake - I don't think Iowa really counts for much other than a 3-way tie.
Trump has much bigger leads in NH and SC than he did in Iowa though. Sanders will win NH, but winning more conservative states will likely be a challenge for him - he also hasn't spent much money/time outside of Iowa and NH.
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