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  • Legacy Fan Legacy FanL
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    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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    That's what I saw on the am news, Chris.

    Biggest surprise was Rubio.

    Wish Rand fared a little better

    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      Biggest surprise was Rubio for sure. Considering his main shouting point has been anti-establishment, people not showing up to vote etc and he doesn't do it himself, wasn't him expecting to get anything. Expected a bit more for Jeb - establishment voters etc.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        Rubio is basically Bush but hes definitely the biggest threat.

        Cruz probably won't win anymore. They said Trump won over lots of moderate Republicans so I'm assuming some split from Trump to Rubio.

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          Huckabee and Santorum have won Iowa before. I don't put much thought into how Iowa Republicans feel.

          That said, Hillary can't be happy about basically tying with Sanders. I could see a situation where the youth vote buries her.

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            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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            Sanders did very well but not well enough. It's hard to get people who vote primarily on the basis of more free shit to actually get off the couch and go vote.

            Trump did get a significant boost later on.

            I wasn't really surprised by Ted Cruz but he is still just too goofy in my opinion to get very far. Looks like Rubio has got a good chance to sneak in and win it.

            I agree with whoever said Rubio is Bush, but Rubio is younger and fresher without the bush baggage or the phenobarbital personality.

            One thing that keeps me from being more of a trump supporter is his lack of substance. Frankly I don't think any presidential candidate knows enough to formulate a policy but he should have enough advisors to give him some talking points.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              Considering hillary had basically a hundred point lead a year ago (no serious opposition) anything other than a crushing victory feels like a defeat for her. She may well go on to win the nomination, but it won't be with the overwhelming backing of the party as she'd hoped.

              Alternatively, those people saying 'bernie can't win' might see that actually, he can definitely win, at least the nomination, and come out to vote for him, and Hillary is prevented once again from her 'divine right' presidency.

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                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

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                • W Westside Steve

                  I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

                  WSS

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

                  WSS

                  Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.

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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    Caucuses are not winner take all AFAIK.

                    Cruz got like 1 more delegate than Trump and Rubio if I'm not mistaken.

                    Bernie may have gotten the same or more as Clinton.

                    Delegates is really all that matters, but it's more interesting to see Rubio/Trump split the self identifying moderate vote. I think it's going to be a two man race after new Hampshire.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      Trump will go on to win the nomination. Iowa is meaningless. Sanders will upset Hitlery. Trump will crush Sanders. Bank it.

                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      • W Westside Steve

                        I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

                        WSS

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

                        WSS

                        The latest bunch of emails Clinton was found to have on her own personal unsecured server was the most confidential there is and lives were put at risk by her negligence. If the FBI refers Clinton to the DOJ for prosecution and the Obama Justice Dept doesn't act on it there will be a huge uproar that cannot be ignored and the atty general will be subpoenaed before congress to answer why.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                          All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I think the Democrats are secretly hoping for Joe Biden but the only way that happens is if Hillary gets indited which the Obama Justice Department will never allow.

                            WSS

                            Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.

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                            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                            @gftchris said:

                            Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.

                            I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              By the way most likely my three favorites will be abandoning the quest soon enough, Fiorina, Christy and Kasich.

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                                @gftchris said:

                                Basically, it's a shit show all round, with the most informed, principled of either side likely not ending up with the nomination and the substandard shit rising to the top.

                                I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?

                                WSS

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                I'm assuming you would be a Bernie Sanders supporter but who is the most informed and competent Republican in your opinion? Bush?

                                WSS

                                Probably Rand Paul. Jeb seems a bit of a puppet, another who seeks a 'divine right' presidency.

                                It would be hilarious, btw, if after all the birther nonsense from parts of the right about Obama, if the republican nominee ends up being 'Rafael' Cruz, someone verifiably born in a different country.

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                                  All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?

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                                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?

                                  Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.

                                  Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.

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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?

                                    Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.

                                    Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.

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                                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                    @bbedward said:

                                    Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.

                                    Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.

                                    Of course only Ben Carson got any notice at all. Neither Mike Huckabee nor Rick Santorum were on the radar.

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      Cruz is a bizarre guy. If you get a chance, check out the behind the scenes of his campaign commercials. He makes his own family uncomfortable.

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        All the pollsters were saying before the vote that the higher the turnout the more it favored Trump yet with the huge record turnout Cruz still wins. Now hearing the same old same old that a conservative like Cruz cannot win in November and we have to have a more *moderate* candidate. Where have I heard that before? John McCain and Mitt Romney? We always hear this that only the moderate establishment republican has a chance to win in November but I thought Reagan proved that myth wrong?

                                        Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.

                                        Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.

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                                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bbedward said:

                                        Cruz is not like McCain or Romney, who both lost in Iowa to bible thumping conservatives.

                                        Regardless Cruz would be a total disaster for this country.

                                        I think that's his point - that Cruz is the bible thumping conservative in this case that shouldn't win the nomination, because a more moderate candidate is needed in november; and that more moderate candidate was McCain and Romney, who both solidly lost, so why try the same thing again? Why not go with Cruz?

                                        At least, I think that's the logic. I'm not sure I agree with it, but that's the logic.

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                                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                          True enough, Ted Cruz is a religious guy but he seems more focused on politics than religion compared to Huckabee and Santorum.

                                          One thing I believe is coming home to roost for Donald Trump is that even though conservatives and outsiders like his brash appeal they have to consider his liberal history.

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