Voting
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I don't care about the ID thing - many states offer free voter ID, others offer state IDs for like $5 ($7.50 in Ohio)
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I don't care about the ID thing - many states offer free voter ID, others offer state IDs for like $5 ($7.50 in Ohio)
I don't care about the ID thing - many states offer free voter ID, others offer state IDs for like $5 ($7.50 in Ohio)
It should be free and that would take away the voter suppression argument.
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It should be free and that would take away the voter suppression argument.
I think in the states that have the law it's already free - I'm not sure but it seems like it's usually part of the legislation.
Ohio and such is cheap, but you can vote with a bank statement or bill or something - don't need ID
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Oh it probably should be free but that won't change the opposition. Then it will be that whatever the process to get one is is just too complicated for many Americans.
Call me undemocratic, but I figure if you are too lazy or stupid to get your shit together for an identification card I don't care about your vote.
The reason we pretend it's wonderful to have a high voter turnout is that the stupidest and laziest people will vote Democrat.
WSS
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Awesome argument, Steve...
It should be free and that would take away the voter suppression argument.
Here, here... as with the supporting documents to obtain the ID.
The problem is that more voter fraud occurs through means other than in person... and more occurs during mass registration campaigns than at elections... especially when companies are paid to register voters.
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It should be free and that would take away the voter suppression argument.
I think in the states that have the law it's already free - I'm not sure but it seems like it's usually part of the legislation.
Ohio and such is cheap, but you can vote with a bank statement or bill or something - don't need ID
I think in the states that have the law it's already free - I'm not sure but it seems like it's usually part of the legislation.
Ohio and such is cheap, but you can vote with a bank statement or bill or something - don't need ID
Would a Mexican or Nicaragua ID suffice I wonder?
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only if you vote democratWould a Mexican or Nicaragua ID suffice I wonder?
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Awesome argument, Steve...
It should be free and that would take away the voter suppression argument.
Here, here... as with the supporting documents to obtain the ID.
The problem is that more voter fraud occurs through means other than in person... and more occurs during mass registration campaigns than at elections... especially when companies are paid to register voters.
Thank you. I assumed if it wasn't somebody might actually be able to refute it.Awesome argument, Steve...
Reason being that some people are too poor or not smart enough or incompetent or too uninterested or too shiftless to scratch together some sort of identification and vote .
Now granted there is probably not a lot of voter fraud but somebody's making a big deal out of this situation.
What would you guess this is?
WSS
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Thank you. I assumed if it wasn't somebody might actually be able to refute it.Awesome argument, Steve...
Reason being that some people are too poor or not smart enough or incompetent or too uninterested or too shiftless to scratch together some sort of identification and vote .
Now granted there is probably not a lot of voter fraud but somebody's making a big deal out of this situation.
What would you guess this is?
WSS
seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not voteThank you. I assumed if it wasn't somebody might actually be able to refute it.
Reason being that some people are too poor or not smart enough or incompetent or too uninterested or too shiftless to scratch together some sort of identification and vote .
Now granted there is probably not a lot of voter fraud but somebody's making a big deal out of this situation.
What would you guess this is?
WSS
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seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not voteThank you. I assumed if it wasn't somebody might actually be able to refute it.
Reason being that some people are too poor or not smart enough or incompetent or too uninterested or too shiftless to scratch together some sort of identification and vote .
Now granted there is probably not a lot of voter fraud but somebody's making a big deal out of this situation.
What would you guess this is?
WSS
Probably so. Frankly I don't want lazy and stupid people running the country.seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not vote
WSS
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Probably so. Frankly I don't want lazy and stupid people running the country.seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not vote
WSS
I don't want that eitherProbably so. Frankly I don't want you're lazy and stupid people running the country.
WSS
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There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
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There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
very trueThere are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
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There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
Even if you don't like them.
WSS
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Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote
Even if you don't like them.
WSS
as long as the ID is freeYes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.
Even if you don't like them.
WSS
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Im with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....
Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?
Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?
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Im with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....
Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?
Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?
sure nothing is freeIm with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....
Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?
Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?
Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote
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Well....I guess it's semantics....I see it as charging a fee 'for an ID".....not to vote....and think everyone should have an ID anyway. ...and it makes sense to confirm who you are prior to casting a vote....and a valid ID is how you do that....
Honestly, why get so uptight about a $5 ID....???....especially in this day and age of concern about illegals, terrorists, etc,etc,etc....
Were losing certain rights left and right, in the name of security....and a $5 ID is an issue?...bah
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as long as the ID is freeYes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.
Even if you don't like them.
WSS
Absolutely no problem with a free ID. But just like Woody I think there should be some sort of test for voting.as long as the ID is free
One test is probably the lowest rung and that's giving enough of the shit to do the slightest bit of effort to vote.
WSS
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It is the democratic party who fights voter ID laws. I don't think $5 for an ID should be an issue and responsible people should have ID but it is the democrats who are the ones filing the lawsuits and making the argument it is voter ID laws that discriminate against blacks, Hispanics and lower income people. If I were a black or Hispanic, I would be extremely offended at such an argument because they are basically saying that they are not smart enough or capable enough to obtain a voter ID like you and me are. Their argument is very racially demeaning and insensitive.
Anyway for me I want to see voter ID upheld and if giving one out for free ends the debate I say do it.
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