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  • Browns149B Browns149

    @westside-steve said:

    Thank you. I assumed if it wasn't somebody might actually be able to refute it.

    Reason being that some people are too poor or not smart enough or incompetent or too uninterested or too shiftless to scratch together some sort of identification and vote .

    Now granted there is probably not a lot of voter fraud but somebody's making a big deal out of this situation.

    What would you guess this is?

    WSS

    seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not vote
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    @browns149 said:

    seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not vote

    Probably so. Frankly I don't want lazy and stupid people running the country.

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      @browns149 said:

      seems to me, one side wants those people, you described, to vote and one side wants those people to not vote

      Probably so. Frankly I don't want lazy and stupid people running the country.

      WSS

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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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      @westside-steve said:

      Probably so. Frankly I don't want you're lazy and stupid people running the country.

      WSS

      I don't want that either
      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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        There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

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        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

          There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          @mld-woody said:

          There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

          very true
          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

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            @mld-woody said:

            There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

            Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.

            Even if you don't like them.

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              @mld-woody said:

              There are a lot of groups I don't want running the country, but they all still get a vote

              Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.

              Even if you don't like them.

              WSS

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.

              Even if you don't like them.

              WSS

              as long as the ID is free
              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                Im with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....

                Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?

                Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?

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                • MudflyM Mudfly

                  Im with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....

                  Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?

                  Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?

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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  @mudfly said:

                  Im with Steve...what's it take to get an ID?.....$5 bucks and an hour of your time.....if you cant accomplish that, then should you participate in making important decisions?....I dont think so....

                  Nothing is "free"....just as is argued all over this page, who's paying for that "free" ID?

                  Wouldnt that be a socialist policy?....free ID's for everybody?

                  sure nothing is free

                  Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                    Well....I guess it's semantics....I see it as charging a fee 'for an ID".....not to vote....and think everyone should have an ID anyway. ...and it makes sense to confirm who you are prior to casting a vote....and a valid ID is how you do that....

                    Honestly, why get so uptight about a $5 ID....???....especially in this day and age of concern about illegals, terrorists, etc,etc,etc....

                    Were losing certain rights left and right, in the name of security....and a $5 ID is an issue?...bah

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Yes they do. And they should have an identification. Same as any other thing you do in society.

                      Even if you don't like them.

                      WSS

                      as long as the ID is free
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                      @browns149 said:

                      as long as the ID is free

                      Absolutely no problem with a free ID. But just like Woody I think there should be some sort of test for voting.

                      One test is probably the lowest rung and that's giving enough of the shit to do the slightest bit of effort to vote.

                      WSS

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                        It is the democratic party who fights voter ID laws. I don't think $5 for an ID should be an issue and responsible people should have ID but it is the democrats who are the ones filing the lawsuits and making the argument it is voter ID laws that discriminate against blacks, Hispanics and lower income people. If I were a black or Hispanic, I would be extremely offended at such an argument because they are basically saying that they are not smart enough or capable enough to obtain a voter ID like you and me are. Their argument is very racially demeaning and insensitive.

                        Anyway for me I want to see voter ID upheld and if giving one out for free ends the debate I say do it.

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                          Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote

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                          then btw, it's the against the Constitution to charge a fee to register a gun....

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                            Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote

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                            then btw, it's the against the Constitution to charge a fee to register a gun....

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote

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                            then btw, it's the against the Constitution to charge a fee to register a gun....

                            Nobody charges a fee to register a gun?

                            Concealed carry requires a decent fee though

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                              http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/03/how-much-does-it-cost-own-firearm-state-state-breakdown

                              There's an article about fees to own guns.

                              Speaking of constitutional, which it isn't, there is a fee for a wedding license.

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                                http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/03/how-much-does-it-cost-own-firearm-state-state-breakdown

                                There's an article about fees to own guns.

                                Speaking of constitutional, which it isn't, there is a fee for a wedding license.

                                WSS

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                                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/03/how-much-does-it-cost-own-firearm-state-state-breakdown

                                There's an article about fees to own guns.

                                Speaking of constitutional, which it isn't, there is a fee for a wedding license.

                                WSS

                                Thank lawd for Ohio. I've seen some of these states restrict magazine capacity and such - which would also suck. Does 10 rounds versus 15 really make a difference? You can kill a giant with 10 rounds.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/03/how-much-does-it-cost-own-firearm-state-state-breakdown

                                  There's an article about fees to own guns.

                                  Speaking of constitutional, which it isn't, there is a fee for a wedding license.

                                  WSS

                                  Thank lawd for Ohio. I've seen some of these states restrict magazine capacity and such - which would also suck. Does 10 rounds versus 15 really make a difference? You can kill a giant with 10 rounds.

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                                  @bbedward said:

                                  Thank lawd for Ohio. I've seen some of these states restrict magazine capacity and such - which would also suck. Does 10 rounds versus 15 really make a difference? You can kill a giant with 10 rounds.

                                  Oh you can kill with a Derringer.

                                  Whittling away at firepower is just a slippery slope.

                                  It isn't that hard to understand is it?

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                                    The best part of voter ID is somehow the 90 year old woman at the polls will be able to spot a fake. If people want to commit fraud they'll find a way to do it. Based on national voting statistics there is more of a problem with people not participating than there is with the people that do.

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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      Except it's against the Constitution to charge a fee to vote

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                                      then btw, it's the against the Constitution to charge a fee to register a gun....

                                      Nobody charges a fee to register a gun?

                                      Concealed carry requires a decent fee though

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                                      @bbedward said:

                                      Nobody charges a fee to register a gun?

                                      Concealed carry requires a decent fee though

                                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                        CCW doesn't require a registered firearm

                                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                          I don't mind processing fees if they are legit. The idea that they can be raised

                                          high to make money off it, for other reasons, or to price the registration/licenses fees

                                          so high as to make them unpayable... is the slippery slope that liberals in gov will happily

                                          slide down as far as our 2nd Amendment goes, and maybe SUV's and pickup trucks....

                                          and racists could use that slippery slope to exclude the poor from voting, etc.

                                          It's using economics as a weapon.

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