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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    And back to the OP. What the New York Times did releasing an 'off the record' interview is disgusting. They would never in a billion years do something like that to Clinton or Cruz, or Rubio. The bias against him is what caused them to release this. This will actually help Trump and gain him votes because it shows the 'establishment' is against him.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    And back to the OP. What the New York Times did releasing an 'off the record' interview is disgusting. They would never in a billion years do something like that to Clinton or Cruz, or Rubio. The bias against him is what caused them to release this. This will actually help Trump and gain him votes because it shows the 'establishment' is against him.

    I agree Diehard it is a cheap shot by the NY Times (nothing new there) to have a candidate speak off the record then leak out that there are some things Trump said off the record that would hurt his candidacy but to release the tape they would have to get Trump's permission. This defeats the whole purpose of even trusting journalists to speak off the record.

    Anyway for me the story confirms what I believe about Trump. He is not serious with some of the claims he is making and there will be buyers remorse from some of his supporters who take him at his word in his campaign speeches.

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      Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

      Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

      That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

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      @gftchris said:

      Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

      Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

      That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

      Am I reading this wrong or are both scenarios the same except one with a bad outcome?

      But sure if his campaign promise and his vision actually comes to pass that everyone loves each other and has a higher standard of living and free everything, and if by some unimaginable chance everyone proudly contributes to society, yes that would be nice.

      On the other hand if trumps promise comes true and we rid the country of criminals and all workers make a living wage building things in the United States and we are winning and winning and winning that would be nice too.

      As a matter of fact if any politicians bullshit came true it would be just dandy.

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        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

        That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

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        @gftchris said:

        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

        That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

        Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

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          @gftchris said:

          Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

          Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

          That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

          Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

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          @vaportrail said:

          Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

          I align with Sanders on a lot - but he is old as dirt and a pussy. I disagree with his stance on border security and assault weapons bans and such (I don't want the whole country to turn into NY or CT or one of those states). He'd also cost me a few thousand dollars a year more in taxes - while providing me with nothing I don't already have except maybe slightly lower student loan interest.

          I also am not a fan of the love fest for BLM and SJWs and the PC culture.

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            @mld-woody said:

            Well that's kind of the point of the show

            Yeah, I just think that the formula's stale.

            @westside-steve said:

            It is kind of amazing, those who hate Donald Trump hate him with a passion that makes Cals opinion of Obama seem kind.

            I feel that if he does get elected the people who are the strongest supporters will be the most disappointed. Nobody can promise prosperity like he does. And it won't be long for that reality sets in. On the other hand even more disappointed will be Bernie Sanders supporters should he sneak in. I mean even those who love him realize his utopian ideas will never ever come to pass.

            As far as Hillary, if she wins I'd expect her to be a huge target because she doesn't possess the charisma of the President or her husband.

            And charges of misogyny aren't nearly as bankable as charges of racism.

            It is funny, however, that the over-the-top hatred of Donald Trump is supposedly because he's not very civil.

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            Realistically, not much will change. That said, his campaign shifted the goalposts for campaign finance, and he is single-handedly responsible for stopping the Bush dynasty in its tracks. He's making the Koch brothers, Dick Cheney, and the Bush family uneasy. Watching Fox News, HuffPo, tumblr, and facebook respond to him being elected will make whatever may happen afterwards worth it. Is a Trump presidency going to be better than the status quo? Who knows? It will definitely be entertaining, and I'm willing to roll the dice.

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            @vaportrail said:

            Yeah, I just think that the formula's stale.

            What formula? Comedy on a comedy show?

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              @vaportrail said:

              Yeah, I just think that the formula's stale.

              What formula? Comedy on a comedy show?

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              @mld-woody said:

              What formula? Comedy on a comedy show?

              No, the news/comedy formula that Jon Stewart mastered. Even the Colbert Report was never as good as The Daily Show when both Colbert and Carrell were anchors on it. John Oliver's show and the new Daily Show are neutered versions of what made Jon Stewart's Daily Show great.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

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                  John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

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                  @gftchris said:

                  John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

                  Well shit of course Obama would go on the Stewart show because he knows he's getting soft balls and a blow job.

                  I do love Oliver even though I don't agree with everything he has to say. Same with Jon Stewart.

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                    @gftchris said:

                    John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

                    Well shit of course Obama would go on the Stewart show because he knows he's getting soft balls and a blow job.

                    I do love Oliver even though I don't agree with everything he has to say. Same with Jon Stewart.

                    WSS

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Well shit of course Obama would go on the Stewart show because he knows he's getting soft balls and a blow job.

                    I do love Oliver even though I don't agree with everything he has to say. Same with Jon Stewart.

                    WSS

                    Stewart also had republicans on there also, was just going with 'high ranking politician' rather than democrat.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Well shit of course Obama would go on the Stewart show because he knows he's getting soft balls and a blow job.

                      I do love Oliver even though I don't agree with everything he has to say. Same with Jon Stewart.

                      WSS

                      Stewart also had republicans on there also, was just going with 'high ranking politician' rather than democrat.

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                      @gftchris said:

                      Stewart also had republicans on there also, was just going with 'high ranking politician' rather than democrat.

                      Yes he did and I'm surprised they would bother going on his show to be ridiculed and shouted down by Stewarts left-wing audience. Oh well.

                      Oliver does a different format.

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                        @gftchris said:

                        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would look like what it should look like and life will be better for the overwhelming majority. But that won't happen.

                        Supposing that Sanders doesn't face huge obstruction from all sides in achieving what he wants to achieve, I think in time the country would become more and more divided, by race, religion, income, gender and others.

                        That is essentially why I would vote Sanders. But we have our own big vote coming up this year.

                        Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

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                        @vaportrail said:

                        Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

                        Geez, not this again.

                        The blame game. Wall Street bigwigs and politicians, not the military or public sector, created this. It's a long read, but explains it very well.

                        http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-the-pension-funds-20130926

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                          @vaportrail said:

                          Ideologically, I align with Sanders more than any other candidate. That said, he's kind of a pussy, and his unwillingness to attack Hillary cost him his shot at the nomination. Further, the only way I can see us making universal healthcare a thing is if you slash military and public sector pensions. Unfortunately, those are two voting blocs with very high turnout.

                          Geez, not this again.

                          The blame game. Wall Street bigwigs and politicians, not the military or public sector, created this. It's a long read, but explains it very well.

                          http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-the-pension-funds-20130926

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                          @bob806 said:

                          Geez, not this again.

                          The blame game. Wall Street bigwigs and politicians, not the military or public sector, created this. It's a long read, but explains it very well.

                          http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-the-pension-funds-20130926

                          For universal healthcare to happen, literally the only way we would be able to afford it is by cutting military spending and pensions. These three categories comprise almost 75% of the entire federal budget.

                          yncj6wc.png

                          Source: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/pension_budget_2015_0.html

                          And yes, the military-industrial complex plays a huge role in how our government wastes money. For example, there's a plant in Lima, Ohio that makes Stryker IFVs. We don't exactly need more Stryker IFVs, but we continue to spend on them because it guarantees jobs to that congressional district. The guys that they elect keep requesting more and more funding to keep this tank plant going, and anyone who suggests that we cut military spending will never get voted into that district. So to get reelected, his platform is to secure jobs and go to congress and vote for more military spending. This happens all over the country. We spend more on our military than the next nine countries combined, and quite frankly, it's a waste.

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                            @gftchris said:

                            Stewart also had republicans on there also, was just going with 'high ranking politician' rather than democrat.

                            Yes he did and I'm surprised they would bother going on his show to be ridiculed and shouted down by Stewarts left-wing audience. Oh well.

                            Oliver does a different format.

                            WSS

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Yes he did and I'm surprised they would bother going on his show to be ridiculed and shouted down by Stewarts left-wing audience. Oh well.

                            WSS

                            I must have misses the episode where the audience ridiculed and shouted down a conservative guest

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                              John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              John Oliver lacks the clout of John Stewart. Stewart would actually get Obama on the show, for example. Chances he does Last Week Tonight?

                              Well he's only in his third season

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                                i actually had no idea just how big of an idiot Trump actually was. My god, Trump steaks? And sold them at sharper image? I know he's a douche but I always kind of figured that he probably was a halfway decent businessman but not half as good as he thinks he is. No now I think he's legitimately Retarded with the dumb shit he's tried to do with his name. And then tells a judge in court that he's estimating his net worth based off his "brand" and that it's basically his own estimate and feels perfectly entitled to sue someone who may point out what a load of horseshit that is.

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                                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                    If trump were awesome he'd get Vincent k. McMahon as a running mate

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                      If trump were awesome he'd get Vincent k. McMahon as a running mate

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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      If trump were awesome he'd get Vincent k. McMahon as a running mate

                                      No, Vince would run as a democrat. Then Linda would slap Trump across the face in one of the debates, and Shane-o-mac would appear out of the audience and level trump with a steel chair.

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                                        The best inauguration song in history
                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          So let's make it clear, I sit just about as in the middle of the political spectrum as one possibly can. This might be a mistake asking but how in God's name could anyone actually vote for Donald Trump? I mean I'm looking for serious points, not the "he talks his mind" bullcrap. The guy is literally insane and is like a South Park character in human form. He literally takes a different stance on an issue depending on the reaction of the crowd. He wants to build a damn wall to keep mexicans out (which no amount of education can help you if you think this shit would ever happen) and wants Muslims to wear special badges akin to Jewish people wearing yellow stars in Germany. He's basically on record on how he wants to bang his daughter. People it seems are voting for the guy because he's a dude who acts and thinks like a 5th grade bully.

                                          I'm fed up at a lot of the government actions as well but I absolutely can't wrap my head around it. While we're at it let's appoint crazy preacher guy to the cabinet as well. It's not a anti-Republican thing, it's a "how can a crazy lunatic be this far" thing.

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