RG3 set to be a Brown ?
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The following QBs DID make it to the SB with the team that drafted them:
Bart Starr
Joe Namath
Craig Morton #
Bob Griese
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Stabler
Vince Ferragamo
Joe Montana
Ken Anderson
David Woodley
Dan Marino
Jim McMahon
Tony Eason
Phil Simms
Boomer Esiason
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Jim Kelly #
Troy Aikman
Neil O'Donnell
Drew Bledsoe
Steve McNair
Tom Brady
Donovan McNabb
Peyton Manning #
Rex Grossman
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
Thus, 32 QBs went to the Super Bowl with their original team, 27 went with a subsequent team. So it is almost even in this regard.
# see previous post
Bottom line: don't overlook the "secondary market" when getting a Super Starting QB is concerned.
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as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
And you're about the only one...
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I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
And so that list isn't really relevant to what I wanted to know. Reason being? Kaepernick, Pryor and RG3 are faield quarterbacks hoping for a resurrection of their careers.
So how often does that happen? Carson Palmer?
WSS
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Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
And you're about the only one...
And you're about the only one...
Also not the quote...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
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Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
Let me go ahead and post what others will say ahead of time:
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Good pick up. Nothing but ceiling with no risk or huge financial commitment.
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Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
And you're about the only one...
And you're about the only one...
So, you can have Bo Callahan, I will take Vontae Mack.
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And you're about the only one...
Also not the quote...
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I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
And so that list isn't really relevant to what I wanted to know. Reason being? Kaepernick, Pryor and RG3 are faield quarterbacks hoping for a resurrection of their careers.
So how often does that happen? Carson Palmer?
WSS
And so that list isn't really relevant to what I wanted to know. Reason being? Kaepernick, Pryor and RG3 are faield quarterbacks hoping for a resurrection of their careers.
So how often does that happen? Carson Palmer?
WSS
Sure it is relevent to what you wanted to know. You wanted to know if a guy who was given up on by a prior team can resurrect his career and have success. Almost all those SB QBs that I listed had that exact thing happen to them.
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And so that list isn't really relevant to what I wanted to know. Reason being? Kaepernick, Pryor and RG3 are faield quarterbacks hoping for a resurrection of their careers.
So how often does that happen? Carson Palmer?
WSS
Sure it is relevent to what you wanted to know. You wanted to know if a guy who was given up on by a prior team can resurrect his career and have success. Almost all those SB QBs that I listed had that exact thing happen to them.
Sure it is relevent to what you wanted to know. You wanted to know if a guy who was given up on by a prior team can resurrect his career and have success. Almost all those SB QBs that I listed had that exact thing happen to them.
Whatever. I could care less about the bullshit. Maybe somebody else can answer the question?
WSS
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RG gets 2 years, 15$ million with about 6$ million guaranteed.
I think they want him to compete to start, and will re-sign him this offseason if he succeeds. They have the cap room to add their franchise QB.
I'd say this lessens the chance they take Goff or Wentz, but I wouldn't rule them out, or rule out a 4th rounder, or later.
But Schefty disagrees with me:
Signing RGIII not expected to have any impact on what Cleveland does in draft. A QB still expected to be the pick.
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This 2-year deal for @RGIII can be worth up to $22M. Which underscores what we knew: Josh McCown will be playing for another team in 2016
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