RG3 set to be a Brown ?
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I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
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What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?
What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?
I want us to make the position better.
Manziel made it worse.
Learning disability?
Zombo
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
Or a very lonely brain cell crying out for companionship?
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
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I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
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Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3
Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods
It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.
A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.
The Browns are said to be doing due diligence and digging deep into Griffin's eventful time with the Redskins to determine if he's a personality fit for new head coach Hue Jackson.
Jackson worked alongside Redskins head coach Jay Gruden with the Cincinnati Bengals, so it's likely the Browns will be able to use that connection to get the complete story of why Griffin's time in the nation's capital turned sour.
If the Browns are convinced there's nothing to Griffin's nature that makes it likely his time in Cleveland would end the same way, a deal could be struck.
Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3
Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods
It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.
A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
Gruden? You me and the guy who can't wait to get the POS off his hands?
WSS
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Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
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Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
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And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
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Not my first choice of free agents but what choices do we realistically have. We keep talking about who we want but who wants to come here is the real question and what do we have to choose from. I think Hue is talking to the higher ups and trying to get the best he can for the 53 man and there just is not as many options as we the fans would like there to be.
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50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
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The following QBs DID make it to the SB with the team that drafted them:
Bart Starr
Joe Namath
Craig Morton #
Bob Griese
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Stabler
Vince Ferragamo
Joe Montana
Ken Anderson
David Woodley
Dan Marino
Jim McMahon
Tony Eason
Phil Simms
Boomer Esiason
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Jim Kelly #
Troy Aikman
Neil O'Donnell
Drew Bledsoe
Steve McNair
Tom Brady
Donovan McNabb
Peyton Manning #
Rex Grossman
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
Thus, 32 QBs went to the Super Bowl with their original team, 27 went with a subsequent team. So it is almost even in this regard.
# see previous post
Bottom line: don't overlook the "secondary market" when getting a Super Starting QB is concerned.
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as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
And you're about the only one...
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I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:
Len Dawson....original team: Steelers
Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers
Earl Morrall: 49ers
Joe Kapp: (Canada)
Johnny Unitas: Steelers
Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos
Billy Kilmer: 49ers
Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)
Ron Jaworski: Rams
Jim Plunkett: Patriots
Joe Theisman: Dolphins
Doug Williams: Bucs
Steve Young: Bucs
Chris Chandler: Colts
Brett Favre: Falcons
Stan Humprhies: Redskins
Trent Dilfer: Bucs
Kerry Collins: Panthers
Brad Johnson: Vikings
Rich Gannon: Vikings
Matt Hasselback: Packers
Drew Brees: Chargers
Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.
even Peyton Manning: Colts
even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)
I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.
And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.
And so that list isn't really relevant to what I wanted to know. Reason being? Kaepernick, Pryor and RG3 are faield quarterbacks hoping for a resurrection of their careers.
So how often does that happen? Carson Palmer?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
And you're about the only one...
And you're about the only one...
Also not the quote...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
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Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
Cleveland is expected to reach agreement with former Redskins' QB Robert Griffin III today, per team source. Griffin III to be a Brown.
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