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RG3 set to be a Brown ?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Why?

    Because, like I said...it is a veteran presence. A fairly steady hand to turn to if things go wrong...or if someone is hurt.

    You go into the season with the fragile RGIII...and he is backed up only by untested Shaw/Davis/rookie QB? Sure, it can be done....but wouldn't it be better to have McCown to turn to. RG isn't that old or experienced. Even if he is playing he could use his backup/player coach there next to him. Sure, he would have an OC and a QB coach and an HC etc......but this would help him, help the rookie, help the team.

    How much is McCown costing? Not that much I don't think.

    @the-gipper said:

    Because, like I said...it is a veteran presence.

    Circular logic is not very compelling.

    As for keeping anything going... First, you have to have something going. We won't... not for a couple years anyway. Then we will have use of a quality back-up, veteran or not, to step in and lead a win or two, if the starter has to sit a couple weeks.

    @the-gipper said:

    Right....anything is possible. But the Tits have said they will want a King's Ransom to trade out of their pick....and with the history of RGIII in Washington, perhaps at best the other teams will want to give up at most a Squire's ransom.

    And then the best squire's ransom may just be good enough...

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    ... considering the cream of this crop is rated higher than either of the last two years, and we have pick of the litter, it wouldn't be a very prudent move.

    Ding Ding Ding...

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  • Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.

    Z

  • Z Zombo

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.

    Z

    You must be fucking high.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Zombo said:

    Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.

    Z

    You must be fucking high.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You must be fucking high.

    You defended Manziel for two years unabashedly . Worst Brown ever. You tell me who is high.

    Z

  • What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • Rg3 to mentor a rookie QB? no way in hell. He's got more to prove, in being a starter again in this league. Hue will make him earn it & Josh just won't hand it to him either. Could you find a better #2 QB than JMc @ that $$$ for a year to Mentor your #2 Pick till surroundings are ready? I don't think so. My only concerns at this point. #1. OL to protect both of them not to get to Rookie till Hue see's fit. 2. No real WR weapons not named Benji. 3. Duke & Crow have got to show a running game with pass protection.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    @the-gipper said:

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    And pray that we go 0 and 16.

    WSS

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?

    I want us to make the position better.

    Manziel made it worse.

    Learning disability?

    Zombo

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."

  • R RoyceRolls

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."

    @roycerolls said:

    translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."

    Or a very lonely brain cell crying out for companionship?

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0

    Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/24219/jay-gruden-says-browns-might-be-good-fit-for-rg-iii

    Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    @the-gipper said:

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?

    make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3

    Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods

    It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.

    A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.

    The Browns are said to be doing due diligence and digging deep into Griffin's eventful time with the Redskins to determine if he's a personality fit for new head coach Hue Jackson.

    Jackson worked alongside Redskins head coach Jay Gruden with the Cincinnati Bengals, so it's likely the Browns will be able to use that connection to get the complete story of why Griffin's time in the nation's capital turned sour.

    If the Browns are convinced there's nothing to Griffin's nature that makes it likely his time in Cleveland would end the same way, a deal could be struck.

    @kvoethe said:

    Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3

    Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods

    It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.

    A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.

    Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0

    Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/24219/jay-gruden-says-browns-might-be-good-fit-for-rg-iii

    Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?

    @hoorta said:

    Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0

    Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/24219/jay-gruden-says-browns-might-be-good-fit-for-rg-iii

    Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?

    Gruden? You me and the guy who can't wait to get the POS off his hands?

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    @the-gipper said:

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    And pray that we go 0 and 16.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And pray that we go 0 and 16.

    WSS

    50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.

    Food for thought.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @the-gipper said:

    Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.

    as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?

    make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).

    @miktoxic said:

    as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?

    make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).

    Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @westside-steve said:

    And pray that we go 0 and 16.

    WSS

    50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.

    Food for thought.

    @the-gipper said:

    50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.

    Food for thought.

    I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.

    To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Not my first choice of free agents but what choices do we realistically have. We keep talking about who we want but who wants to come here is the real question and what do we have to choose from. I think Hue is talking to the higher ups and trying to get the best he can for the 53 man and there just is not as many options as we the fans would like there to be.

  • W Westside Steve

    @the-gipper said:

    50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.

    Food for thought.

    I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.

    To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.

    To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?

    WSS

    I actually documented this a few weeks back. But here are a few examples of Super Bowl starting QBs being on their 2d, maybe third team. Its not that all these guys were "failures" with their first team....but that first team decided for one reason or another not to keep them around:

    Len Dawson....original team: Steelers

    Darryl Lamonica: Original team: Chargers

    Earl Morrall: 49ers

    Joe Kapp: (Canada)

    Johnny Unitas: Steelers

    Craig Morton: made SB with Cowboys that drafted him...but also later with Broncos

    Billy Kilmer: 49ers

    Fran Tarkenton (started with Vikings....went to Giants, then back to Vikings)

    Ron Jaworski: Rams

    Jim Plunkett: Patriots

    Joe Theisman: Dolphins

    Doug Williams: Bucs

    Steve Young: Bucs

    Chris Chandler: Colts

    Brett Favre: Falcons

    Stan Humprhies: Redskins

    Trent Dilfer: Bucs

    Kerry Collins: Panthers

    Brad Johnson: Vikings

    Rich Gannon: Vikings

    Matt Hasselback: Packers

    Drew Brees: Chargers

    Kurt Warner Rams then Giants then Cardinals.

    even Peyton Manning: Colts

    even sorta Jim Kelly (drafted by Bills, but played with USFL)

    I will say this though: For the past 6 Super Bowls, the starting QBs were drafted by those teams.

    And both Elway (Colts) and Eli Manning (Chargers) did not make it with the team that drafted them...but were traded on draft day or shortly thereafter.

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