RG3 set to be a Brown ?
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Maybe a bit.
The upside potential is great and I have been quietly voicing my support for RG3 for more than a few seasons. Do I like RG3 as a prospect more than Wentz? I'm not sure.
I wonder if Sashi thinks that we can trade back from #2 to somewhere in the early teens and still conceivably nab Wentz, and RG3 is more of a hedging of his bets than anything else. Granted, I don't really see who would trade up, nor what they would trade up for, but I wonder if that scenario has been thrown out.
Time to come up with another far fetched scenario...
I don't think that the trade down scenario is thrown out at all. I think it may be enhanced. So say the Browns get RG. To me, that sends a signal that they may not in fact be taking a QB at #2.....but other teams may want to climb up there and be the first to grab one of those QBs. Dallas maybe, Rams, 49ers.
Other than Cowboys I am not sure what we could get from them.....but the Redskins with RG kinda set the market bar, no? Three first round picks?
If draft picks are the gold standard by which our analytics guys play....then that could be a treasure trove for them.
I don't think that the trade down scenario is thrown out at all. I think it may be enhanced. So say the Browns get RG. To me, that sends a signal that they may not in fact be taking a QB at #2.....but other teams may want to climb up there and be the first to grab one of those QBs. Dallas maybe, Rams, 49ers.
Other than Cowboys I am not sure what we could get from them.....but the Redskins with RG kinda set the market bar, no? Three first round picks?
If draft picks are the gold standard by which our analytics guys play....then that could be a treasure trove for them.
The Browns will only trade down if they have Goff and Wentz rated equally, and no farther than the Cowboys #4. BTW, Jerrah already has said he's not trading up, if you want to believe him. Going any lower than that and the Browns miss out on your fave Bosa, if they're not taking a QB, which I seriously doubt. The only QB needy team that might have a realistic chance to jump the Browns is the 49ers, and if they still have Kap, it ain't happening.
LOL- I saw on Pro Football Focus Chris Collinsworth has the Rams trading up to #1, to make a big splash in LA. It would take an RG III type deal to get the Titans to drop that far. & why should the Rams do something dumb like that- they were the beneficiary of the RG III deal, and Lynch should be sitting there for them. Denver moving up to #1\#2 overall? No way in hell. The Titties\Browns would probably start by asking for Von Miller, TJ Ward, their first round pick, and a couple more.
And Ergo keeping McCown would by no means hurt them this year.
It was just McCown's $1 million guaranteed money I posted. If we keep him around it goes up, but not hatefully so. $3.6 million with a $750k roster bonus.
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I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Maybe. But there's no guarantee of that. And considering the cream of this crop is rated higher than either of the last two years, and we have pick of the litter, it wouldn't be a very prudent move.
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Why?
Because, like I said...it is a veteran presence. A fairly steady hand to turn to if things go wrong...or if someone is hurt.
You go into the season with the fragile RGIII...and he is backed up only by untested Shaw/Davis/rookie QB? Sure, it can be done....but wouldn't it be better to have McCown to turn to. RG isn't that old or experienced. Even if he is playing he could use his backup/player coach there next to him. Sure, he would have an OC and a QB coach and an HC etc......but this would help him, help the rookie, help the team.
How much is McCown costing? Not that much I don't think.
Because, like I said...it is a veteran presence.
Circular logic is not very compelling.
As for keeping anything going... First, you have to have something going. We won't... not for a couple years anyway. Then we will have use of a quality back-up, veteran or not, to step in and lead a win or two, if the starter has to sit a couple weeks.
Right....anything is possible. But the Tits have said they will want a King's Ransom to trade out of their pick....and with the history of RGIII in Washington, perhaps at best the other teams will want to give up at most a Squire's ransom.
And then the best squire's ransom may just be good enough...
... considering the cream of this crop is rated higher than either of the last two years, and we have pick of the litter, it wouldn't be a very prudent move.
Ding Ding Ding...
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.
Z
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.
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Zombo said:
Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.
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You must be fucking high.
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Zombo said:
Says Johnny Manziel's fluffer.
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You must be fucking high.
You must be fucking high.
You defended Manziel for two years unabashedly . Worst Brown ever. You tell me who is high.
Z
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What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?
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Rg3 to mentor a rookie QB? no way in hell. He's got more to prove, in being a starter again in this league. Hue will make him earn it & Josh just won't hand it to him either. Could you find a better #2 QB than JMc @ that $$$ for a year to Mentor your #2 Pick till surroundings are ready? I don't think so. My only concerns at this point. #1. OL to protect both of them not to get to Rookie till Hue see's fit. 2. No real WR weapons not named Benji. 3. Duke & Crow have got to show a running game with pass protection.
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I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?
What does that have to do with wanting a piece of shit like RGIII dumb ass? I defended a Browns QB, and wished for success. You want a failed piece of shit with a bum leg. So whos the dumb ass again tough guy?
I want us to make the position better.
Manziel made it worse.
Learning disability?
Zombo
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
translation: "I can't wait for Trump to banish all the blacks and browns to the not-america side of his glorious wall."
Or a very lonely brain cell crying out for companionship?
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
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I should have said "thrown around", not "thrown out". An RG3 signing, to me, points to us trying to move back and gain some picks, while still getting one of the top two QB's.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
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Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3
Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods
It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.
A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.
The Browns are said to be doing due diligence and digging deep into Griffin's eventful time with the Redskins to determine if he's a personality fit for new head coach Hue Jackson.
Jackson worked alongside Redskins head coach Jay Gruden with the Cincinnati Bengals, so it's likely the Browns will be able to use that connection to get the complete story of why Griffin's time in the nation's capital turned sour.
If the Browns are convinced there's nothing to Griffin's nature that makes it likely his time in Cleveland would end the same way, a deal could be struck.
Report: Teams expect Browns to sign RG3
Mar 23 2016, 8:05 AMDavid P. Woods
It appears increasingly likely that Robert Griffin III will soon be a member of the Cleveland Browns.
A day after ESPN's Adam Schefter said the Browns are "definitely interested" in signing the former Washington Redskins passer, FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Wednesday that the prevailing feeling among NFL coaches and executives is that Griffin and the Browns will eventually reach a deal.
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Fuck RGIII. Anyone who wants him is a fucking total idiot.
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
Let's just say I'm not thrilled at the prospect. He was rookie of the year. If Hue brings him in- I'll live with it. You'll also have to. Or you think Hue is an idiot too?
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/the_browns_and_robert_griffin.html#0
Think Jackson isn't totally aware of this stuff?
Or is Gruden just blowing smoke up Hue's ass?
Gruden? You me and the guy who can't wait to get the POS off his hands?
WSS
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Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
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Or, it could mean they will want to try to go with RG for a year or two.....get a mid rounder this year....and wait for another year when the QB crop is better.
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
as couch replied above, why risk anything when you have the #2 pick with 2 qbs that have been rated higher than any QB that has come out in the last 2 yrs?
make the pick. if the guy busts then we will all know once and for all that god hates the browns (or bernie sold his soul to the devil and this is his payback).
Because, to quote Sonny Weaver "I think they are busts".
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And pray that we go 0 and 16.
WSS
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
50% of Super Bowl starting QBs did not go their with the team that drafted them. They went with a subsequent team.
Food for thought.
I was responding to someone mentioning that next year the quarterback crop might be better. Unless we go 0 and 16 we won't be able to get that top guy anyway.
To your point how many of those quarterbacks were failures on their original team or traded quickly?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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