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Gary Johnson Polling at 13%

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

    Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

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    @bbedward said:

    Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

    But voters are morons for the most part.

    They have no idea.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      Agree... Johnson will be in the debates.

      I'd prefer to see 1-on-1, but it likely ends up a 3-way.

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        The concept of things like executive orders and a presidential election not being tied to senate/congress/legislative elections make it basically impossible for a third party to have a credible chance as there's no such thing as a minority or coalition government.

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          Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

          With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

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            P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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            He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              Johnson has my wasted vote. I live in WV so Trump will win in a landslide. He came here and said "I will bring coal back". No real explanation (as per usual) but the locals rejoiced.

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                He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

                http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/25/gary-johnsons-new-mexico-fiscal-record-d

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                  Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                  With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

                  WSS

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                  With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

                  WSS

                  three would be better than two, but four would be better still. I mean, there's a functional limit on how many relevant parties you can have - a hundred parties with different policies and one percent of the vote each is kinda pointless. But as I said, the system of a president who can circumvent the will of the democratically elected legislatures is not one that lends itself to compromise and collaboration.

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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    I just want to see 1-on-1 because seeing Clinton get stumped is more entertaining than watching Johnson gets stumped, who nobody even cares about.

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                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                      http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078
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                        http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078
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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @pumpkin-eater said:

                        http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078

                        They agreed on social issues but not on economics. I thought people pretty well knew that.

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          It'd be interesting to see comparisons between trump and hillary on things like that. Plus, for fun, Bernie, this indie, and maybe a cruz/carson/kasich.

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                              P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                              He supports TPP. Not a libertarian position to support a overly complicated unfair trade deal.

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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                a 1 percent. They don't vote.

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                                  in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                  except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                  a 1 percent. They don't vote.

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                                  jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                  except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                  a 1 percent. They don't vote.

                                  You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                    except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                    a 1 percent. They don't vote.

                                    You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jbluhm86 said:

                                    You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

                                    "but, but, but.... Woody started it"

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                      well, jblew, your last post was worse than mine in that regard.

                                      It's very well established that woody doesn't get a simple, civilized

                                      comment or three, so, he gets a constant payback often, now.

                                      I believe that not one of all the learning disabled students in Ohio,

                                      not ONE, is as learning disable as woody.

                                      woody won't quit drive by screwing with my posts, and dissing me, so I

                                      figured I have to remind him again to quit. There is consequences to be

                                      faced when you are a bitchy, smart ass drive by birdbrain,

                                      and woodpecker used up all the grace I ever had to offer up to ignore him,

                                      a long time ago.

                                      and encouraging him - like you are, doesn't help anything, and let me know when

                                      you grow the nads to tell him to knock it off because you are tired of it,

                                      and I'll make sure to have a snack and a cup of coffee while I sit back and watch

                                      woody play the victim again.

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                                        well, jblew, your last post was worse than mine in that regard.

                                        It's very well established that woody doesn't get a simple, civilized

                                        comment or three, so, he gets a constant payback often, now.

                                        I believe that not one of all the learning disabled students in Ohio,

                                        not ONE, is as learning disable as woody.

                                        woody won't quit drive by screwing with my posts, and dissing me, so I

                                        figured I have to remind him again to quit. There is consequences to be

                                        faced when you are a bitchy, smart ass drive by birdbrain,

                                        and woodpecker used up all the grace I ever had to offer up to ignore him,

                                        a long time ago.

                                        and encouraging him - like you are, doesn't help anything, and let me know when

                                        you grow the nads to tell him to knock it off because you are tired of it,

                                        and I'll make sure to have a snack and a cup of coffee while I sit back and watch

                                        woody play the victim again.

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                                        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        It's very well established that woody doesn't get a simple, civilized

                                        comment or three, so, he gets a constant payback often, now.

                                        ...

                                        I believe that not one of all the learning disabled students in Ohio,

                                        not ONE, is as learning disable as woody...

                                        2E4F46B400000578-3312236-image-a-29_1447

                                        ...woody won't quit drive by screwing with my posts, and dissing me, so I

                                        figured I have to remind him again to quit. There is consequences to be

                                        faced when you are a bitchy, smart ass drive by birdbrain,

                                        and woodpecker used up all the grace I ever had to offer up to ignore him,

                                        a long time ago...

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                                        ...and let me know when you grow the nads to tell him to knock it off because you are tired of it,

                                        and I'll make sure to have a snack and a cup of coffee while I sit back and watch

                                        woody play the victim again.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          Don't ever disagree with Cal. That's personally insulting him. He'll do it back, but its just self defense then.

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