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Gary Johnson Polling at 13%

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  • C Clevfan4life

    @bbedward said:

    Fuck yea

    Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

    He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

    wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

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    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

    Srsly.

    @bbedward said:

    Gary Johnson is a wacko

    I wouldn't mind seeing him in the debates, but I hate that the third party candidates are so fringe

    I mean, you're giving me a choice between a wacko, a loudmouth, and a corrupt shill. Not really many options to go around.

    @vaportrail said:

    I guarantee the establishment rewrites the rules to prevent it if Gary hits threshold.

    Oh, you know they're going to try to, but I think the cat is out of the bag on how corruptly-ran the Commission for Presidential Debates really is, and people are taking notice.

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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      Clinton would pass the TPP,despite not supporting it at the moment.at the very best change a few insignificant things and call it fixed.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

        Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

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        @bbedward said:

        Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

        But voters are morons for the most part.

        They have no idea.

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          Agree... Johnson will be in the debates.

          I'd prefer to see 1-on-1, but it likely ends up a 3-way.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            The concept of things like executive orders and a presidential election not being tied to senate/congress/legislative elections make it basically impossible for a third party to have a credible chance as there's no such thing as a minority or coalition government.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

              With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

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                P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  Johnson has my wasted vote. I live in WV so Trump will win in a landslide. He came here and said "I will bring coal back". No real explanation (as per usual) but the locals rejoiced.

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                    He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                    @pumpkin-eater said:

                    He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

                    http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/25/gary-johnsons-new-mexico-fiscal-record-d

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                    • W Westside Steve

                      Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                      With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

                      WSS

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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                      With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

                      WSS

                      three would be better than two, but four would be better still. I mean, there's a functional limit on how many relevant parties you can have - a hundred parties with different policies and one percent of the vote each is kinda pointless. But as I said, the system of a president who can circumvent the will of the democratically elected legislatures is not one that lends itself to compromise and collaboration.

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        I just want to see 1-on-1 because seeing Clinton get stumped is more entertaining than watching Johnson gets stumped, who nobody even cares about.

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                          P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                          http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078
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                            http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078
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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            @pumpkin-eater said:

                            http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078

                            They agreed on social issues but not on economics. I thought people pretty well knew that.

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                              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                              It'd be interesting to see comparisons between trump and hillary on things like that. Plus, for fun, Bernie, this indie, and maybe a cruz/carson/kasich.

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                                  P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                                  He supports TPP. Not a libertarian position to support a overly complicated unfair trade deal.

                                  :neutral_face:
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                    except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                    a 1 percent. They don't vote.

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                                    • C calfoxwc

                                      in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                      except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                      a 1 percent. They don't vote.

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                                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                      except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                      a 1 percent. They don't vote.

                                      You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

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                                      • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        in this election, anybody here could poll 13 percent,

                                        except for the woodpecker - he wouldn't muster

                                        a 1 percent. They don't vote.

                                        You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @jbluhm86 said:

                                        You know Cal, if you really want to slob Woody's knob that badly, all you'd probably have to do is ask him. The whole "insult woody to disguise my true feelings for him" motif that you do in nearly every thread is getting a bit worn out. Most people quit that shit in elementary school, dawg.

                                        "but, but, but.... Woody started it"

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                          well, jblew, your last post was worse than mine in that regard.

                                          It's very well established that woody doesn't get a simple, civilized

                                          comment or three, so, he gets a constant payback often, now.

                                          I believe that not one of all the learning disabled students in Ohio,

                                          not ONE, is as learning disable as woody.

                                          woody won't quit drive by screwing with my posts, and dissing me, so I

                                          figured I have to remind him again to quit. There is consequences to be

                                          faced when you are a bitchy, smart ass drive by birdbrain,

                                          and woodpecker used up all the grace I ever had to offer up to ignore him,

                                          a long time ago.

                                          and encouraging him - like you are, doesn't help anything, and let me know when

                                          you grow the nads to tell him to knock it off because you are tired of it,

                                          and I'll make sure to have a snack and a cup of coffee while I sit back and watch

                                          woody play the victim again.

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