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Gary Johnson Polling at 13%

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  • Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    I predict he'll poll higher than that eventually

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    • bbedwardB bbedward

      Gary Johnson is a wacko

      I wouldn't mind seeing him in the debates, but I hate that the third party candidates are so fringe

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      @bbedward said:

      Gary Johnson is a wacko

      I wouldn't mind seeing him in the debates, but I hate that the third party candidates are so fringe

      cause your guy and his people are totally normal right?

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        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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        I guarantee the establishment rewrites the rules to prevent it if Gary hits threshold.

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        • C Clevfan4life

          @bbedward said:

          Gary Johnson is a wacko

          I wouldn't mind seeing him in the debates, but I hate that the third party candidates are so fringe

          cause your guy and his people are totally normal right?

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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          @clevfan4life said:

          cause your guy and his people are totally normal right?

          Fuck yea

          Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

          He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

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            @clevfan4life said:

            cause your guy and his people are totally normal right?

            Fuck yea

            Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

            He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            @bbedward said:

            Fuck yea

            Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

            He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

            wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

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              @bbedward said:

              Fuck yea

              Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

              He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

              wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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              @clevfan4life said:

              wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

              TPP is sold with the disguise of "free trade" which the libertarians support - save for the Pauls who understand it anyway.

              But there's a lot more to it than that

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                @clevfan4life said:

                wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

                TPP is sold with the disguise of "free trade" which the libertarians support - save for the Pauls who understand it anyway.

                But there's a lot more to it than that

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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                @bbedward said:

                TPP is sold with the disguise of "free trade" which the libertarians support - save for the Pauls who understand it anyway.

                But there's a lot more to it than that

                I had no idea Gary was pro-TPP.

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                  @bbedward said:

                  TPP is sold with the disguise of "free trade" which the libertarians support - save for the Pauls who understand it anyway.

                  But there's a lot more to it than that

                  I had no idea Gary was pro-TPP.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @vaportrail said:

                  I had no idea Gary was pro-TPP.

                  yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

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                    @vaportrail said:

                    I had no idea Gary was pro-TPP.

                    yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

                    Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

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                      @bbedward said:

                      Fuck yea

                      Gary Johnson supports the TPP and is a giant douche. Third party candidates historically poll higher than what they get votes though.

                      He's better than Jill Stein though, but Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul that's for sure.

                      wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

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                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      wait the libertarian guy supports TPP? srsly?

                      Srsly.

                      @bbedward said:

                      Gary Johnson is a wacko

                      I wouldn't mind seeing him in the debates, but I hate that the third party candidates are so fringe

                      I mean, you're giving me a choice between a wacko, a loudmouth, and a corrupt shill. Not really many options to go around.

                      @vaportrail said:

                      I guarantee the establishment rewrites the rules to prevent it if Gary hits threshold.

                      Oh, you know they're going to try to, but I think the cat is out of the bag on how corruptly-ran the Commission for Presidential Debates really is, and people are taking notice.

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        Clinton would pass the TPP,despite not supporting it at the moment.at the very best change a few insignificant things and call it fixed.

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          yeah no shit, isn't that like heresy in the libertarian party?

                          Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

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                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                          @bbedward said:

                          Libertarians are pro-free trade, but the TPP is a lot more than a simple "free trade" agreement - otherwise it wouldn't be thousands of pages long.

                          But voters are morons for the most part.

                          They have no idea.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            Agree... Johnson will be in the debates.

                            I'd prefer to see 1-on-1, but it likely ends up a 3-way.

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                              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                              The concept of things like executive orders and a presidential election not being tied to senate/congress/legislative elections make it basically impossible for a third party to have a credible chance as there's no such thing as a minority or coalition government.

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                                With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

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                                  P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                                  He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                    Johnson has my wasted vote. I live in WV so Trump will win in a landslide. He came here and said "I will bring coal back". No real explanation (as per usual) but the locals rejoiced.

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                                      He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @pumpkin-eater said:

                                      He's a fake. He's big government and pro-establishment. He's actually a liberal, so he'll poach more votes from crooked Hillary than anyone else.

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                                        Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                                        With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

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                                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Those who love a free-for-all should probably favor a 4 party contest rather than 3. You could have a center-right comma Center left and a hard right and left.

                                        With a 3 Party you're almost guaranteed that the majority will be unhappy.

                                        WSS

                                        three would be better than two, but four would be better still. I mean, there's a functional limit on how many relevant parties you can have - a hundred parties with different policies and one percent of the vote each is kinda pointless. But as I said, the system of a president who can circumvent the will of the democratically elected legislatures is not one that lends itself to compromise and collaboration.

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                                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                          I just want to see 1-on-1 because seeing Clinton get stumped is more entertaining than watching Johnson gets stumped, who nobody even cares about.

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