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SHOTS FIRED! New Research Challenges Sacred Cow of the Liberal Left

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  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    @stinkhole said:

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    the 'suspicion of crossover'? You mean, people can be paedophiles regardless of their sexual orientation or gender?

  • @stinkhole said:

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

    @tour2ma said:

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

    Magnets

  • not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    Crossover is everywhere in life cal. So in essence you've then concluded becausebmany heterosexuals abuse children that maybe we should look at how hererosexuality is a gateway to abusing children of the opposite sex. Goid job twisting urself into that fallacious hole

  • Its all in ur head cal. There is not an ounce, not one single gram of evidence that hoosexuality is gateway behaviornto abusing children. Just as you cant link heterosexual activity as a direct precursor to pedophilia. Ur making it all up. Puling it clean out yer arse

  • not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

    @calfoxwc said:

    not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

    You aren't automatically a deviant because you're gay.

    To suggest that being gay takes you one step closer to being a pedophile is a fucked up set of non-logic thinking that I have a hard time wrapping my head around.

  • not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

  • not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

    I think the rub is that you are comparing gay people to pedos. Just because I am willing to speed when I am late to work does not mean that I am more likely to fall down some rabbit hole of becoming a heroin dealer. Because while I am willing to deviate from the preferred speed limit, that does not mean that I am willing to deviate from the norm of not selling heroin.

  • To suggest that being gay takes you one step closer to being a pedophile is a fucked up set of non-logic thinking that I have a hard time wrapping my head around. Tiam

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    I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting, (not having much of an idea, actually, but thinkin), that acting out in

    an abnormal, perverse way sexually, ...what is the problem of acting worse in the same trend?

    Let's put it this way - if some nut goes around driving and shooting out windows....why would anybody think

    "well gee, he'll never go around shooting people...why would we think that? That's not "fair""

    If a violent person is apt to be violent, why put non-violent perspectives on the degree of violence that perpetrator would

    commit next? See? That's a rational progression of suspicion.

    I think it's strange that "3 %" of the population gets all this support. Libs need their votes that bad? Why not just get

    all the votes from pedophiles, murderes, ex-cons of violent crimes, raping illegals and islamic refugees....?

    Once someone breaks the law, legally or natural law speaking-wise, why is it so tough for bleeding heart liberals to

    get, that that someone would also break other laws by commiting worse crimes?

  • I think the rub is that you are comparing gay people to pedos. Just because I am willing to speed when I am late to work does not mean that I am more likely to fall down some rabbit hole of becoming a heroin dealer. Because while I am willing to deviate from the preferred speed limit, that does not mean that I am willing to deviate from the norm of not selling heroin.

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    True. and I'm just guessing. Not saying all gay people. But some gay people who overtly violate other

    people's sensibilities and morals by throwing into their face... that is a different behavior than just being gay.

    That is perverted. Like, Not -gay-, but the perverted dancing in the street in front of children and adults watching

    a parade while waiting to cross the street "celebrating that they are gay". That is perverted behavior.

    Forcing a Christian baker to bake a gay false "wedding" cake is perverted behavior. Activist gays like this are

    pushing behavior that is alienating other folks. It's the overt behavior of abnormalcy, that is perverted, as I see it.

    And overt behavior is an underlying trend for other overt.

    Demanding that Real Marriage be redefined for gays is perverted. Having "civil unions" was not.

    Therefore, I conclude that it isn't being -gay- that is the problem - it's the overt, antagonistic type of in your face

    behavior that is perverted. And that behavior lends itself to worse behavior.

    When anyone loses a commonly understood sense of decency, it is obvious to most (except some liberals...)...

    that it's a slippery slope of uncommon, indecent behavior possibilities.

  • Your argument is self-fulfilling, cal... Remove the perversion lynch pin and your argument falls apart.

    Homosexuality is no longer considered a "perversion" by societal norms... which is not the same as all corners of society. If your religious beliefs dictate that is how you must think of it... fine. But that is not license for making a societal argument.

  • Cals apparently neverbseen what straight people in brazil get up to with their parades. Makes a gay parade come off like a mormon funeral procession

  • Cleve translation: "gosh, in Turkey, they rape and behead boys, so...why is it wrong here?"

    Cleve, you need to stop and think before you post.

    And Tour, to point, yes. Why would I devise my perceptions in terms of others' perceptions?

    I'm not religious. But "3%" of society doesn't make for normal. Therefore, it's abnormal.

    I don't reject gays, I reject their lifestyle. And try to force me to accept it is perverted.

    Society accepts deviancies like that... but I don't think you accept that nude gay impromptu

    parade in front of unsuspecting adults and children. When I have found out someone was gay, I never

    treated them any differently at work. I would never socialize with them away from work, that's all.

  • Cleve translation: "gosh, in Turkey, they rape and behead boys, so...why is it wrong here?"

    Cleve, you need to stop and think before you post.

    And Tour, to point, yes. Why would I devise my perceptions in terms of others' perceptions?

    I'm not religious. But "3%" of society doesn't make for normal. Therefore, it's abnormal.

    I don't reject gays, I reject their lifestyle. And try to force me to accept it is perverted.

    Society accepts deviancies like that... but I don't think you accept that nude gay impromptu

    parade in front of unsuspecting adults and children. When I have found out someone was gay, I never

    treated them any differently at work. I would never socialize with them away from work, that's all.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Cleve translation: "gosh, in Turkey, they rape and behead boys, so...why is it wrong here?"

    all.

    Ih no thats not at all what im saying. Did u front load ur meds this week or something?

  • no, but you often knee jerk, apparently subconciously, without saying

    what you "mean" to be saying.

    Cleve: "BLAH BLAH BLAH *^^&^&_+_(_)U*( BLAH"

    someone else: "WHAT???"

    Cleve: "no, that isn't what I'm saying..."

  • Ur the only in here letting his irrational emotional state get the better of him today cal.

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  • Yet, I'm having some coffee and a few cinnamon rolls I made,

    I'm happy, happy, happy. You, not so much. Too much knee jerkie for you.

  • Maybe tje coffee is giving u anxiety?