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SHOTS FIRED! New Research Challenges Sacred Cow of the Liberal Left

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  • The whole idea of homosexuality being a choice is basically Retarded. I mean, given how much shit people take for it - remembering Die Hard casually dropping in to conversation that he thinks one such guy in his navy days was killed for being gay, because that's what happens - who would *choose* to be gay?

    @gftchris said:

    The whole idea of homosexuality being a choice is basically Retard. I mean, given how much shit people take for it - remembering Die Hard casually dropping in to conversation that he thinks one such guy in his navy days was killed for being gay, because that's what happens - who would *choose* to be gay?

    I have a relative who was in the marines in the 60's and he said for entertainment they would go out and beat up gays on the weekends. He saw it as great fun. I am sure Diehard is right about a gay person getting killed back then. That is horrible and I am glad we have come a long ways today from that kind of hate against gays.

    I just will not condone or put my stamp of approval on that behavior. For me it would be the same as condoning adultery. It is a behavior expressly condemned as sinful behavior in the bible. Most Christians though are well aware we are all sinners and love the sinner and hate the sin. That is where I am at.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck and every member of NAMBLA were born that way. That's just a stupid reason for or against.

    WSS

    Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?

    No.

    Why do you ask?

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?

    No.

    Why do you ask?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No.

    Why do you ask?

    WSS

    I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

  • @westside-steve said:

    No.

    Why do you ask?

    WSS

    I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

  • Just let the gays be gay.

    You wanna be a woman? I dont give 3 fucks as long as you're up front about having a dick. Don't want to get catfished or anything.

  • Stuart

    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

  • Stuart

    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

    @stinkhole said:

    Stuart

    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

    Well...I choose not to be a Steelers fan. So there's always that.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

  • @westside-steve said:

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Glad you highlight this.

    If you're one of the 'blacks commit XX amount of crimes by pop % ZOMG LOOK AT THE STATS' and you can't adhere to the above quote (because the stats/facts support the notion) then you clearly have no method for rational debate because there is zero consistency in your argument. Aka, you might as well be a woman.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    @stinkhole said:

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency.

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    One is between consenting adults the other is with kids. Sorry, not all 'wiring' is made the same.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

    you've lost me i have no idea what you're saying now. I'm not even sure we aren't crossing threads.

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    No, never said they were equal. Nothing of the sort. They are, in your stupid example, different...

    but they are BOTH CRIMES.

    they are both perverted. A more accurrate attempt would have been illegally doing barbituates and doing heroin or lsd or something.

    IOW's, they are both drugs, and it isn't unwarranted to say that one has led to the other.

    If someone is a deliberate lawbreaker involving drugs, of course it's a gateway to worse laws broken and worse drugs.

    Steve's point, in my own words, has to do with the perversion category of behavior.

    gate·way drug
    noun
    plural noun: gateway drugs
    1. a habit-forming drug that, while not itself addictive, may lead to the use of other addictive drugs.
      "many believe that alcohol and cigarettes are gateway drugs that increase the risk of subsequent involvement with illegal drugs"
      It is not unreasonable to suspect perverted behavior to be a possible "gateway behavior".
      Having said that, there actually IS a gateway behavior category. Sometimes I amaze myself.
      Gateway behaviors are like gateway drugs - PoliceOne
      https://www.policeone.com/.../2070162-Gateway-behaviors-ar...
      Police One
      May 25, 2010 - The validity of the gateway drug theory is still being debated, but its overall premise is undeniable: Bad behavior leads to worse behavior.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    @stinkhole said:

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    the 'suspicion of crossover'? You mean, people can be paedophiles regardless of their sexual orientation or gender?