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SHOTS FIRED! New Research Challenges Sacred Cow of the Liberal Left

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  • @clevfan4life said:

    I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

  • @westside-steve said:

    No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

    WSS

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Glad you highlight this.

    If you're one of the 'blacks commit XX amount of crimes by pop % ZOMG LOOK AT THE STATS' and you can't adhere to the above quote (because the stats/facts support the notion) then you clearly have no method for rational debate because there is zero consistency in your argument. Aka, you might as well be a woman.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    @stinkhole said:

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency.

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    One is between consenting adults the other is with kids. Sorry, not all 'wiring' is made the same.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

    WSS

    you've lost me i have no idea what you're saying now. I'm not even sure we aren't crossing threads.

  • A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    No, never said they were equal. Nothing of the sort. They are, in your stupid example, different...

    but they are BOTH CRIMES.

    they are both perverted. A more accurrate attempt would have been illegally doing barbituates and doing heroin or lsd or something.

    IOW's, they are both drugs, and it isn't unwarranted to say that one has led to the other.

    If someone is a deliberate lawbreaker involving drugs, of course it's a gateway to worse laws broken and worse drugs.

    Steve's point, in my own words, has to do with the perversion category of behavior.

    gate·way drug
    noun
    plural noun: gateway drugs
    1. a habit-forming drug that, while not itself addictive, may lead to the use of other addictive drugs.
      "many believe that alcohol and cigarettes are gateway drugs that increase the risk of subsequent involvement with illegal drugs"
      It is not unreasonable to suspect perverted behavior to be a possible "gateway behavior".
      Having said that, there actually IS a gateway behavior category. Sometimes I amaze myself.
      Gateway behaviors are like gateway drugs - PoliceOne
      https://www.policeone.com/.../2070162-Gateway-behaviors-ar...
      Police One
      May 25, 2010 - The validity of the gateway drug theory is still being debated, but its overall premise is undeniable: Bad behavior leads to worse behavior.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

    perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

    legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

    It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

    Stuart

    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

    @stinkhole said:

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    the 'suspicion of crossover'? You mean, people can be paedophiles regardless of their sexual orientation or gender?

  • @stinkhole said:

    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

    @tour2ma said:

    Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

    Magnets

  • not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

    Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

    Crossover is everywhere in life cal. So in essence you've then concluded becausebmany heterosexuals abuse children that maybe we should look at how hererosexuality is a gateway to abusing children of the opposite sex. Goid job twisting urself into that fallacious hole

  • Its all in ur head cal. There is not an ounce, not one single gram of evidence that hoosexuality is gateway behaviornto abusing children. Just as you cant link heterosexual activity as a direct precursor to pedophilia. Ur making it all up. Puling it clean out yer arse

  • not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

    @calfoxwc said:

    not decent, law-abiding human beings.

    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

    You aren't automatically a deviant because you're gay.

    To suggest that being gay takes you one step closer to being a pedophile is a fucked up set of non-logic thinking that I have a hard time wrapping my head around.

  • not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

  • not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    not a logical extension. If a white person commits a crime, does that mean all white people

    might commit crime?

    it's nonsense. You are confusing patterns of behavior with identity. All gay people do not act out

    on their perversion, I would suppose....

    A hetero pedophile.... wouldn't you suspect that pedophile of doing the crime again?

    or a different related crime, worse than they did before? We're talking about the slippery slope

    of deviant behavior.

    Crossing the line of normalcy lends itself to crossing the line further. I don't see what's so tough about understanding that.

    I think the rub is that you are comparing gay people to pedos. Just because I am willing to speed when I am late to work does not mean that I am more likely to fall down some rabbit hole of becoming a heroin dealer. Because while I am willing to deviate from the preferred speed limit, that does not mean that I am willing to deviate from the norm of not selling heroin.