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SHOTS FIRED! New Research Challenges Sacred Cow of the Liberal Left

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  • LogicIsForSquares LogicIsForSquaresL Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    I have met little kids who were clearly gay and not from families where mom and dad foster the idea of wanting a gay kid. Quite the contrary, they were devoutly religious.

    My step brother is gay and grew up in our house where everyone gave each other hell for just about anything. Probably why he stayed in the closet for as long as he did.

    Call it what you will but the kids are born that way and not groomed to become Liberace.

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    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

      @brownskidd said:

      In a nutshell, there is no scientific evidence for being "Born that way". That children who portray trans-gendered actions normally grow out of such actions. That parents who try and push/nurture their children to being transgendered can cause more harm mentally down the road. That sex reassignment surgery does not provide the mental stability that is assumed. That the media and government agenda is in fact wrong and should seriously reconsider many of the legislation and agendas pushing for certain rights and recommends that serious research and study be given instead of giving into the agenda.

      [citation needed]

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      @mld-woody said:

      [citation needed]

      Read the journal...

      Here is a synopsis if you don't want too.

      http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/ryan-t-anderson/nearly-everything-media-tell-you-about-sexual-orientation-and-gender

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      • gftChrisG gftChris

        The whole idea of homosexuality being a choice is basically Retarded. I mean, given how much shit people take for it - remembering Die Hard casually dropping in to conversation that he thinks one such guy in his navy days was killed for being gay, because that's what happens - who would *choose* to be gay?

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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        @gftchris said:

        The whole idea of homosexuality being a choice is basically Retard. I mean, given how much shit people take for it - remembering Die Hard casually dropping in to conversation that he thinks one such guy in his navy days was killed for being gay, because that's what happens - who would *choose* to be gay?

        I have a relative who was in the marines in the 60's and he said for entertainment they would go out and beat up gays on the weekends. He saw it as great fun. I am sure Diehard is right about a gay person getting killed back then. That is horrible and I am glad we have come a long ways today from that kind of hate against gays.

        I just will not condone or put my stamp of approval on that behavior. For me it would be the same as condoning adultery. It is a behavior expressly condemned as sinful behavior in the bible. Most Christians though are well aware we are all sinners and love the sinner and hate the sin. That is where I am at.

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          @westside-steve said:

          Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck and every member of NAMBLA were born that way. That's just a stupid reason for or against.

          WSS

          Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?
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          @clevfan4life said:

          Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?

          No.

          Why do you ask?

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            @clevfan4life said:

            Do you see how bringing nambla and the predation of non consenting children into this discussion about consenting adults.......is kind of douchey steve?

            No.

            Why do you ask?

            WSS

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            No.

            Why do you ask?

            WSS

            I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

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              @westside-steve said:

              No.

              Why do you ask?

              WSS

              I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

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              @clevfan4life said:

              I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

              No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

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                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                Just let the gays be gay.

                You wanna be a woman? I dont give 3 fucks as long as you're up front about having a dick. Don't want to get catfished or anything.

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                  StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                  Stuart

                  The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

                  Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

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                    Stuart

                    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

                    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @stinkhole said:

                    Stuart

                    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

                    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

                    Well...I choose not to be a Steelers fan. So there's always that.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

                      No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

                      WSS

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

                      WSS

                      Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

                        WSS

                        Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

                        Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

                          B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                          perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                          legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                          It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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                          • C calfoxwc

                            A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

                            B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                            perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                            legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                            It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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                            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                            perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                            legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                            It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                            No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
                            "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                              perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                              legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                              It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                              No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                              Glad you highlight this.

                              If you're one of the 'blacks commit XX amount of crimes by pop % ZOMG LOOK AT THE STATS' and you can't adhere to the above quote (because the stats/facts support the notion) then you clearly have no method for rational debate because there is zero consistency in your argument. Aka, you might as well be a woman.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                                perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                                legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                                It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                                No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                                StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                                @jbluhm86 said:

                                No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                                Stuart

                                Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

                                A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

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                                • StinkHoleS StinkHole

                                  @jbluhm86 said:

                                  No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                                  Stuart

                                  Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

                                  A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

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                                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @stinkhole said:

                                  Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency.

                                  A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

                                  One is between consenting adults the other is with kids. Sorry, not all 'wiring' is made the same.

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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

                                    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

                                    WSS

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

                                    WSS

                                    you've lost me i have no idea what you're saying now. I'm not even sure we aren't crossing threads.

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                                      A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

                                      B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                                      perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                                      legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                                      It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                                      perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                                      legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                                      It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                                      but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                                        perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                                        legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                                        It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                                        No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                                        @jbluhm86 said:

                                        No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                                        No, never said they were equal. Nothing of the sort. They are, in your stupid example, different...

                                        but they are BOTH CRIMES.

                                        they are both perverted. A more accurrate attempt would have been illegally doing barbituates and doing heroin or lsd or something.

                                        IOW's, they are both drugs, and it isn't unwarranted to say that one has led to the other.

                                        If someone is a deliberate lawbreaker involving drugs, of course it's a gateway to worse laws broken and worse drugs.

                                        Steve's point, in my own words, has to do with the perversion category of behavior.

                                        gate·way drug
                                        noun
                                        plural noun: gateway drugs
                                        1. a habit-forming drug that, while not itself addictive, may lead to the use of other addictive drugs.
                                          "many believe that alcohol and cigarettes are gateway drugs that increase the risk of subsequent involvement with illegal drugs"
                                          It is not unreasonable to suspect perverted behavior to be a possible "gateway behavior".
                                          Having said that, there actually IS a gateway behavior category. Sometimes I amaze myself.
                                          Gateway behaviors are like gateway drugs - PoliceOne
                                          https://www.policeone.com/.../2070162-Gateway-behaviors-ar...
                                          Police One
                                          May 25, 2010 - The validity of the gateway drug theory is still being debated, but its overall premise is undeniable: Bad behavior leads to worse behavior.
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                                          perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                                          legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                                          It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                                          but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

                                          Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                                          Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

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