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    StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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    Stuart

    The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

    Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

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      Stuart

      The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

      Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @stinkhole said:

      Stuart

      The idea that someone chooses his sexual orientation sounds ridiculous. No one chooses to be heterosexual. I am straight because I am straight, Cleve is gay because he is gay.

      Did anyone here ever come to a point in your life when you chose which way you were gonna roll?

      Well...I choose not to be a Steelers fan. So there's always that.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        I ask cause its douchey. And frankly i thought you were above that.

        No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

        WSS

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        @westside-steve said:

        No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

        WSS

        Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

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          @westside-steve said:

          No you didn't. You don't even know what consent means.

          WSS

          Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

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          @clevfan4life said:

          Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

          Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

            B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

            perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

            legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

            It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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              A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

              B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

              perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

              legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

              It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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              @calfoxwc said:

              B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

              perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

              legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

              It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

              No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
              "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                @calfoxwc said:

                B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                Glad you highlight this.

                If you're one of the 'blacks commit XX amount of crimes by pop % ZOMG LOOK AT THE STATS' and you can't adhere to the above quote (because the stats/facts support the notion) then you clearly have no method for rational debate because there is zero consistency in your argument. Aka, you might as well be a woman.

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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                  perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                  legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                  It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                  No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                  StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                  @jbluhm86 said:

                  No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                  Stuart

                  Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

                  A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

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                    @jbluhm86 said:

                    No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                    Stuart

                    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

                    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @stinkhole said:

                    Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency.

                    A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

                    One is between consenting adults the other is with kids. Sorry, not all 'wiring' is made the same.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      Yeah i did. I literally absolutely though you were above equating consenting adults in a homosexual relationship and nambla folks. Was i wrong?

                      Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

                      WSS

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Once more you have no idea what the cliche means. It pisses you off but you need to pretend that there's something more to it.

                      WSS

                      you've lost me i have no idea what you're saying now. I'm not even sure we aren't crossing threads.

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                        A. Cleve - you are supposed to respect his SERVICE.

                        B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                        perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                        legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                        It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                        perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                        legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                        It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                        but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                          perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                          legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                          It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                          No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.
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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          @jbluhm86 said:

                          No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                          No, never said they were equal. Nothing of the sort. They are, in your stupid example, different...

                          but they are BOTH CRIMES.

                          they are both perverted. A more accurrate attempt would have been illegally doing barbituates and doing heroin or lsd or something.

                          IOW's, they are both drugs, and it isn't unwarranted to say that one has led to the other.

                          If someone is a deliberate lawbreaker involving drugs, of course it's a gateway to worse laws broken and worse drugs.

                          Steve's point, in my own words, has to do with the perversion category of behavior.

                          gate·way drug
                          noun
                          plural noun: gateway drugs
                          1. a habit-forming drug that, while not itself addictive, may lead to the use of other addictive drugs.
                            "many believe that alcohol and cigarettes are gateway drugs that increase the risk of subsequent involvement with illegal drugs"
                            It is not unreasonable to suspect perverted behavior to be a possible "gateway behavior".
                            Having said that, there actually IS a gateway behavior category. Sometimes I amaze myself.
                            Gateway behaviors are like gateway drugs - PoliceOne
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            B. What is one perversion of normalcy that is completely not like other

                            perversions of normalcy? Steve makes a solid point. Same category,

                            legitimate suspicion between gayness and other perversions of normalcy.

                            It's just self-serving liberal to try to disassociate one from another when it's in the same category.

                            but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

                            Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                            Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

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                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              No, it's not. It's false equivalency. It's akin to saying murder and jaywalking are equal, because they're both crimes. Not to mention that the majority of child abuse crimes are perpetrated by heterosexuals.

                              Stuart

                              Not false equivalency. Your example is false un-equivalency??? lol

                              A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid. The kid being a victim is after the fact...the nambla dudes aim is not to victimize... as a murderers aim is to murder and a jaywalkers aim is to jaywalk....his aim is getting sexual gratification.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @stinkhole said:

                              A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

                              Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

                                Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                                Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                                Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

                                the 'suspicion of crossover'? You mean, people can be paedophiles regardless of their sexual orientation or gender?

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                                  @stinkhole said:

                                  A homo is wired to want sex with someone of the same sex, a nambla dude is wired to want sex with a kid.

                                  Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Ah... there you have it... wires... the common thread...

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                                    not decent, law-abiding human beings.

                                    It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

                                    from a worse deviancy/perversion?

                                    it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

                                    won't break the law when he/she gets here?

                                    Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

                                    Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      but there's no valid association. Steve, and you, are completely making it up because it fits your narrative about homosexuals. Pedophiles are an entirely different species. Is there some crossover, yeah im sure....just as there are men who engage in relationships with women but whenever they get the chance the sexually assault young girls. There is no real equivalency. You can call homosexualtiy a perversion if you want, that's your right....but to equate it as the slippery slope to allowing children to be sexually exploited, well that's indicative of a mind that has fallen low indeed.

                                      Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                                      Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      Dang, even in your rebuttal, you are admitting possible crossover.

                                      Steve is saying that the suspicion of crossover is not unwarranted. You just agreed with him. Good job.

                                      Crossover is everywhere in life cal. So in essence you've then concluded becausebmany heterosexuals abuse children that maybe we should look at how hererosexuality is a gateway to abusing children of the opposite sex. Goid job twisting urself into that fallacious hole

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                                        Its all in ur head cal. There is not an ounce, not one single gram of evidence that hoosexuality is gateway behaviornto abusing children. Just as you cant link heterosexual activity as a direct precursor to pedophilia. Ur making it all up. Puling it clean out yer arse

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                                          not decent, law-abiding human beings.

                                          It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

                                          from a worse deviancy/perversion?

                                          it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

                                          won't break the law when he/she gets here?

                                          Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

                                          Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

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                                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          not decent, law-abiding human beings.

                                          It's about being a deviant...why deny deviancy/perversion is just a step away

                                          from a worse deviancy/perversion?

                                          it's baloney to do that - like an illegal immigrant breaks the law...why think he/she

                                          won't break the law when he/she gets here?

                                          Once a pattern is established, the progression towards further behavior is a justified suspicion.

                                          Anything else is uncivilized, and full of dimwitsies.

                                          You aren't automatically a deviant because you're gay.

                                          To suggest that being gay takes you one step closer to being a pedophile is a fucked up set of non-logic thinking that I have a hard time wrapping my head around.

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