just go to a 4-3 ffs
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This topic is Retarded.
Let's go through an entire draft, training camp, and two rounds of cuts assuming a 3-4.... and then switch to a 4-3.
This topic is Retard.
Let's go through an entire draft, training camp, and two rounds of cuts assuming a 3-4.... and then switch to a 4-3.
I wouldnt disagree if we gadnt drafted two primary pass rushers that currently at least look "way" better in the 4-3. Im not clamoring for 4-3 cause i like seeing 4 dreamy studs bent over at the line, although..............,,.?
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Not sure, tia...
Only through the 1st QTR of the Bears preseason game, but it seems to me we play with a different attitude in 4-3. Could be as simple as our rook "DEs'" comfort level with being in a 3-point, but that ain't nothing.
Hence my emphasis on mentioning the biggest difference are the OLB's.
To me, finding a collegiate DE and turning him into successful 2pt player might be the hardest thing to project and coach. It takes quite a while before you reap any real benefits.
Biggest exceptions to that rule I can think of would be Aldon Smith and Mack. However both of those players had time and coaching as rush linebackers while still in school. Now that I think of it, Aldon really didn't play from a 2pt much in his monster rookie year. Ogba and Carl have not received
that type of time at the position before. Plus I don't see either possessing the physical makeup for the spot.
Seeing that most defenses spend their time in the nickel, I'd say we'll be in our four man front 65-70% of the time.
Hence my emphasis on mentioning the biggest difference are the OLB's.
To me, finding a collegiate DE and turning him into successful 2pt player might be the hardest thing to project and coach. It takes quite a while before you reap any real benefits.
Biggest exceptions to that rule I can think of would be Aldon Smith and Mack. However both of those players had time and coaching as rush linebackers while still in school. Now that I think of it, Aldon really didn't play from a 2pt much in his monster rookie year. Ogba and Carl have not received
that type of time at the position before. Plus I don't see either possessing the physical makeup for the spot.
I cant speak for aldon but i watched alot of macks tape and he was all over the place. Standind, sitting..it didnt matter. He even looked good at ilb'er.......i wanted him so fucking bad.
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I've always preferred the 4-3 system unless you absolutely do not have enough big guys to staff the D line.
I've always preferred the 4-3 system unless you absolutely do not have enough big guys to staff the D line.
I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
The Fearsome Foursome
The Doomsday Defense
The Purple People Eaters
The Steel Curtain
The New York Sack Exchange
Reggie White/Eagles line
Gino Marchetti/Big Daddy Lipscomb Colts line
Willie Davis/Henry Jordan Packers DL
Howie Long/Lyle Alzado Raiders DL
The 1985 Bears: Dent, Hampton, McMichael, Perry
And don't forget the 1964 Browns: Wiggin, Glass, Kanicki, Modzelewski
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This topic is Retarded.
Let's go through an entire draft, training camp, and two rounds of cuts assuming a 3-4.... and then switch to a 4-3.
This topic is Retard.
Let's go through an entire draft, training camp, and two rounds of cuts assuming a 3-4.... and then switch to a 4-3.
What I would say is suit your defense to match your talent. If we have the DL to play 4-3....and we don't have the LBs to play 3-4, then play 4-3...and vice versa.
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This topic is Retard.
Let's go through an entire draft, training camp, and two rounds of cuts assuming a 3-4.... and then switch to a 4-3.
What I would say is suit your defense to match your talent. If we have the DL to play 4-3....and we don't have the LBs to play 3-4, then play 4-3...and vice versa.
What I would say is suit your defense to match your talent. If we have the DL to play 4-3....and we don't have the LBs to play 3-4, then play 4-3...and vice versa.
Except we've been drafting the last 4 years for a predominantly 3-4 defence.
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What I would say is suit your defense to match your talent. If we have the DL to play 4-3....and we don't have the LBs to play 3-4, then play 4-3...and vice versa.
Except we've been drafting the last 4 years for a predominantly 3-4 defence.
Except we've been drafting the last 4 years for a predominantly 3-4 defence.
But in Browns fashion, they ended up drafting players that are better suited for a 4-3 haha.
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But in Browns fashion, they ended up drafting players that are better suited for a 4-3 haha.
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
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But in Browns fashion, they ended up drafting players that are better suited for a 4-3 haha.
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
Paea, Cooper, Hughes.
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Paea, Cooper, Hughes.
Sure. Any of those guys get your motor going as 4-3 DTs? Not quite Geno Atkins and Gerald McCoy.
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Paea, Cooper, Hughes.
Sure. Any of those guys get your motor going as 4-3 DTs? Not quite Geno Atkins and Gerald McCoy.
Sure. Any of those guys get your motor going as 4-3 DTs? Not quite Geno Atkins and Gerald McCoy.
Paea could be something but the others are filler.
Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?
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Paea I believe is the town at sea level that you bike to when you start off at 11K+ elevation at the top of Haleakala. You go from there to Paea and you only have to pedal like twice.
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Paea could be something but the others are filler.
Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
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I've always preferred the 4-3 system unless you absolutely do not have enough big guys to staff the D line.
I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
The Fearsome Foursome
The Doomsday Defense
The Purple People Eaters
The Steel Curtain
The New York Sack Exchange
Reggie White/Eagles line
Gino Marchetti/Big Daddy Lipscomb Colts line
Willie Davis/Henry Jordan Packers DL
Howie Long/Lyle Alzado Raiders DL
The 1985 Bears: Dent, Hampton, McMichael, Perry
And don't forget the 1964 Browns: Wiggin, Glass, Kanicki, Modzelewski
I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
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I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
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Paea could be something but the others are filler.
Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
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I think people dont understand that for dl switching between 3-4 and 4-3 is really nothing unless you have a dlightly undersized 4-3 dt that u mive to NT. Thats the only time switches really give sny problems. A good 3-4 NT is going to do just fine moving 3ft to his left ir right. Infact they prob would appreciate the chance to get upfield some more
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Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.
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Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.
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I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.
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