just go to a 4-3 ffs
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Paea I believe is the town at sea level that you bike to when you start off at 11K+ elevation at the top of Haleakala. You go from there to Paea and you only have to pedal like twice.
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Paea could be something but the others are filler.
Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
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I've always preferred the 4-3 system unless you absolutely do not have enough big guys to staff the D line.
I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
The Fearsome Foursome
The Doomsday Defense
The Purple People Eaters
The Steel Curtain
The New York Sack Exchange
Reggie White/Eagles line
Gino Marchetti/Big Daddy Lipscomb Colts line
Willie Davis/Henry Jordan Packers DL
Howie Long/Lyle Alzado Raiders DL
The 1985 Bears: Dent, Hampton, McMichael, Perry
And don't forget the 1964 Browns: Wiggin, Glass, Kanicki, Modzelewski
I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
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I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
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Paea could be something but the others are filler.
Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
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I think people dont understand that for dl switching between 3-4 and 4-3 is really nothing unless you have a dlightly undersized 4-3 dt that u mive to NT. Thats the only time switches really give sny problems. A good 3-4 NT is going to do just fine moving 3ft to his left ir right. Infact they prob would appreciate the chance to get upfield some more
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Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.
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Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er
I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.
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I always like the 4-3 simply out of Nostalgia.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl. -
Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.
U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?
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Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...
I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.
5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).
POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?
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5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).
POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?
True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).
POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?
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5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.
U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?
U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?
Yes and no. Orchard is the WLB in our base sets. I do believe him capable of playing boundary looks in our four man front at OLB and of course as an edge rusher or 5th man.
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5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)
True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).
POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?
True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).
POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?
Yea, I was going to say Lombardi.
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Zombo said:
Allie Sherman?
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He came later, I think. The name is like right on the tip of my brain, but it is not coming out.
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Zombo said:
Allie Sherman?
Nope... Actually was my guess as well... went to verify and found:
In 1957 (Allie) returned to the Giants as a scout and then rejoined the coaching staff in 1959 as offensive coordinator, replacing Vince Lombardi when he was appointed head coach of the Green Bay Packers.[3] Lombardi, a good friend, wanted Sherman to join him as the Packers' offensive coordinator, but Sherman wanted the Giants head coach position.
A couple links later came the right answer... I know I'd never have gotten it.
The Giants' 1956 championship team not only included players who would eventually find their way to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but a Hall of Fame coaching staff, as well. Head coach Jim Lee Howell's staff had Vince Lombardi coaching the offense and Tom Landry coaching the defense.[19]
Jim Lee Who?
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U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?
Yes and no. Orchard is the WLB in our base sets. I do believe him capable of playing boundary looks in our four man front at OLB and of course as an edge rusher or 5th man.
Yes and no. Orchard is the WLB in our base sets. I do believe him capable of playing boundary looks in our four man front at OLB and of course as an edge rusher or 5th man.
U think he's fast enough to play olb'er in a 4-3? He'd be an awful big 4-3 olb'er. I know oakland used mack his first year in their 4-3 as an olb'er and he immediatrly became one of the best run stoppers in the league not just for rooks, grrrrrrr, but thats mack he's a freak
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