Angel caught on camera?
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You see it all throughout human history to present.
What you see is people worshipping anything out of fear and trying to control the unknown, sure. Rain god, sun god, moon god, earth god, everything god, nothing god. Everything is up for worship, as people try to explain things as whichever deity interfering in everyday life.
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You see it all throughout human history to present.
None of that stuff matters to Chris. He thinks he's a Vulcan. Love hate anger happiness faith fear hope, all bullshit.
WSS
None of that stuff matters to Chris. He's british. Love hate anger happiness faith fear hope, all bullshit.
WSS
FIFY.
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You see it all throughout human history to present.
What you see is people worshipping anything out of fear and trying to control the unknown, sure. Rain god, sun god, moon god, earth god, everything god, nothing god. Everything is up for worship, as people try to explain things as whichever deity interfering in everyday life.
What you see is people worshipping anything out of fear and trying to control the unknown, sure. Rain god, sun god, moon god, earth god, everything god, nothing god. Everything is up for worship, as people try to explain things as whichever deity interfering in everyday life.
The deep seated hunger in the human heart for God is the reason for all religions. The love of the miraculous is not a mark of ignorance but an outreaching for an unseen God. It is not a mark of great scholarship to deny the miraculous. Jesus' life was a miracle. His teachings were miraculous, His death and resurrection was a miracle. Every person who is "born again" is a miracle. Christianity is not a religion but the life of God in man.
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See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
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See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
I have had a few miracles in my own life. My wife had a tumor that came up on an ultra sound with her pregnancy and she asked for prayer from the church and the very next ultra sound they could not find the tumor which the doctor had claimed before was the size of a grapefruit. The doctor kept looking over and over for the tumor and kept saying to the nurse it couldn't have just disappeared...well it did.
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None of that stuff matters to Chris. He's british. Love hate anger happiness faith fear hope, all bullshit.
WSS
FIFY.
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See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
I have had a few miracles in my own life. My wife had a tumor that came up on an ultra sound with her pregnancy and she asked for prayer from the church and the very next ultra sound they could not find the tumor which the doctor had claimed before was the size of a grapefruit. The doctor kept looking over and over for the tumor and kept saying to the nurse it couldn't have just disappeared...well it did.
I have had a few miracles in my own life. My wife had a tumor that came up on an ultra sound with her pregnancy and she asked for prayer from the church and the very next ultra sound they could not find the tumor which the doctor had claimed before was the size of a grapefruit. The doctor kept looking over and over for the tumor and kept saying to the nurse it couldn't have just disappeared...well it did.
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The characterization of more ancient peoples who worshiped the sun, fake idols, etc... doing so out of fear,
is only partly true.
Human beings fear the unknown - there was a lot in those days they didn't understand, couldn't explain,
and they knew THEY didn't create the stars, mountains, earth, sky, themselves, all life...
I think there are too many souls who worship science - it's what they rely on to explain those same unknowns.
Except, there is an aspect to life that doesn't relate to just science. Like how I, a good fifth grade kid, was all alone, down the ravine in our woods, on a record cold single digit very early morning, in a small spring, couldn't get out, and no person ever knew
I was there to come rescue me...and came a few minutes from never making it back home.
and how I still was rescued. Science can explain the brain, and memory. But science can't explain
love, courage, honor, and a lot of other stuff. You can search the net - I'm sure there are plenty of
other stuff.
It's like a computer, maybe - science can explain the accumulation of data - but can't explain how people develop
it into information, and how they act on the information.
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Whether or not the picture is true I believe angels are sometimes present in churches where worship of the Lord is going on. I have no doubt about it but I am not convinced a camera can catch the presence...which is a spiritual presence..I tend to agree with the author of the article below. vvvvvv
"Over the years, I have found that most people end up believing exactly what they want to believe.
If someone out there is absolutely determined to believe that supernatural events do not exist, then a hundred more stories just like this will not persuade that person.
Personally, I am fully convinced that the God who created all things is still doing supernatural things today just like He always has been."
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I think anyone is free to look at that could and interpret as they choose.
It should be noted that clouds were seen as certain apocalyptic (term doesn't necessarily mean "end of world" here) imagery in Jewish customs. References to clouds can be scene in the old and new testaments many times. Christ was taken up in the clouds and we are advised that he will likely return in the clouds from Heaven. Josephus the Jewish Historian and Tacitus, a Roman historian both saw armies in the clouds that surrounded Jerusalem just before the fall of Jerusalem, in and around 75 A.D.
Josephus (A.D. 75) - Jewish Historian
"Besides these [signs], a few days after that feast, on the one- and-twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared; I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence" (Jewish Wars, VI-V-3).Tacitus (A.D. 115) - Roman historian
"13. Prodigies had occurred, but their expiation by the offering of victims or solemn vows is held to be unlawful by a nation which is the slave of superstition and the enemy of true beliefs. In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour. A sudden lightning flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure. Few people placed a sinister interpretation upon this. The majority were convinced that the ancient scriptures of their priests alluded to the present as the very time when the Orient would triumph and from Judaea would go forth men destined to rule the world." (Histories, Book 5, v. 13).
If you choose to see the cloud as an angel and perhaps a simple reminder that we are all still being watched by something greater than nothing wrong with that.
If you choose to explain by its natural phenomenon, nothing wrong with that either. If you choose to believe that both can be harmonized together, nothing wrong with that either.
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What you see is people worshipping anything out of fear and trying to control the unknown, sure. Rain god, sun god, moon god, earth god, everything god, nothing god. Everything is up for worship, as people try to explain things as whichever deity interfering in everyday life.
The deep seated hunger in the human heart for God is the reason for all religions. The love of the miraculous is not a mark of ignorance but an outreaching for an unseen God. It is not a mark of great scholarship to deny the miraculous. Jesus' life was a miracle. His teachings were miraculous, His death and resurrection was a miracle. Every person who is "born again" is a miracle. Christianity is not a religion but the life of God in man.
The deep seated hunger in the human heart for God is the reason for all religions. The love of the miraculous is not a mark of ignorance but an outreaching for an unseen God. It is not a mark of great scholarship to deny the miraculous. Jesus' life was a miracle. His teachings were miraculous, His death and resurrection was a miracle. Every person who is "born again" is a miracle. Christianity is not a religion but the life of God in man.
What that is is a fear of death and our desire to continue this forever. It's a perfectly understandable thing. Nobody wants to go into the darkness. I sure don't.
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The deep seated hunger in the human heart for God is the reason for all religions. The love of the miraculous is not a mark of ignorance but an outreaching for an unseen God. It is not a mark of great scholarship to deny the miraculous. Jesus' life was a miracle. His teachings were miraculous, His death and resurrection was a miracle. Every person who is "born again" is a miracle. Christianity is not a religion but the life of God in man.
What that is is a fear of death and our desire to continue this forever. It's a perfectly understandable thing. Nobody wants to go into the darkness. I sure don't.
What that is is a fear of death and our desire to continue this forever. It's a perfectly understandable thing. Nobody wants to go into the darkness. I sure don't.
Agree and the bible addresses this:
Jesus like His brothers:
Hebrews 2:14: Therefore, since the children have flesh and blood, He too shared in their humanity, so that by His death He might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the devil, 15: and deliver those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
There is also a deep seated hunger in people for the supernatural and to see miracles. An old time minister I like (he was the real deal versus some tv evangelists today) who had many instances of miracles in his ministry of healing and even some people being raised back from death put things in perspective though in regards to this. He said he would rather see one person get saved in his meetings over 10,000 people getting healed. Even Lazarus whom Jesus raised from death would only live to die again later...the spiritual new birth is the greatest miracle of all.
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I crave a Browns Super Bowl. I crave miracles
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I've never even seen a ghost before. Or UFO or Bigfoot either. But that's an angel right there.
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India has squat toilets. But I guess that bullshit passes as funny to Christophobes.
I think you are confusing squat toilets with outhouses. Squat toilets are just toilets that you have to squat over to take a dump, instead of a sitting position; it has nothing to do with the plumbing. In fact, most squat toilets today are flushable, and have water supplied to them, including plumbing and waste water disposal pipes.
It's fake. Water runs downhill. The statue was outside, far away from the wall of the sanctuary. Explain how wastewater would go from a clogged drain, over to the statue, up the statue, then down its foot... it might be fake but it's not from a toilet or drain
That is not necessarily true. It would be more accurate to describe water as flowing down a gradient, not just downhill: water, if unobstructed, tends to flow from areas of high concentration to low concentration.
As for the statue, it is pretty simple to explain how wastewater can travel against gravity, if you have a basic understanding of physics. In this case, water traveled via capillary action - the movement of water within the spaces of a porous material due to the forces of adhesion, cohesion, and surface tension. Its the same mechanism that trees and other plants use to transport water from the ground up to the top branches and leaves, or how fuel travels up a wick in a tiki torch.
You can test this phenomenon for yourself: get a small, flat dinner plate and pour a small, shallow amount of water into it. Then, place a paper towel roll onto the dish. After a few minutes, the water will begin to travel up the paper towel roll - against gravity - via capillary action.
In the case of the statue, the water from the broken plumbing caused the ground around the crucifix statue to become saturated with moisture. This, coupled along with a relatively dry, wooden statue, created a gradient for water to travel up the statue, via capillary action. Water from the ground moved up the base of the wooden cross, and traveled along the nail connecting body portion of the crucifix of the cross to the wooden cross, allowing for the water to travel down to the feet of the statue and drip off. Sanal Edamaruku - the man who debunked this "miracle" also stated as much:
"The priest and the very active Catholic laity organizations associated with the Our Lady of Velankanni Church in Mumbai [the church where the statue is located] were promoting the idea that water dripping from the feet of a statue of Jesus was a sign from God. Hundreds of believers flocked to the dripping cross, collecting and consuming "holy" drainage water that they believed would cure all ailments...I was invited to the Delhi studio of TV9, a Mumbai-based national channel, to comment. During the program, I rejected the possibility of a miracle but of course could not give scientific explanations without an investigation. The channel then invited me to come to Mumbai. The church authorities agreed.
[Once there,] I had a close look at a nearby washroom and the connected drainage system that passed underneath the concrete base of the cross. I removed some stones from the drain and found it was blocked. I touched the walls, the base, and the cross and It was very simple: Water from the washroom, which had been blocked in the clogged drainage system, had been transmitted via capillary action into the adjacent walls and the base of the cross as well as into the wooden cross itself. The water came out through a nail hole and ran down over the statue's feet."
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"If we are to suppose a miracle to be something so entirely out of the course of what is called nature, that she must go out of that course to accomplish it, and we see an account given of such a miracle by the person who said he saw it, it raises a question in the mind very easily decided, which is,โIs it more probable that nature should go out of her course, or that a man should tell a lie? We have never seen, in our time, nature go out of her course; but we have good reason to believe that millions of lies have been told in the same time; it is, therefore, at least millions to one, that the reporter of a miracle tells a lie."
- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason.
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I've never even seen a ghost before. Or UFO or Bigfoot either. But that's an angel right there.
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I've never even seen a ghost before. Or UFO or Bigfoot either. But that's an angel right there.
This sort of reminds me of a story my friend once told me about his dad. His dad fought in Vietnam and Cambodia during the war, and probably helped create a few ghosts himself, if ghosts are indeed real.
Years later, his dad was up late one night drinking and watching TV, when he saw a ghost appear from the wall, which proceeded to walk right in front of him, and disappear through the adjacent wall.
Now, which is more likely - that his dad truly saw a ghost, or that he was drunk off his ass and just seeing shit?
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I've never even seen a ghost before. Or UFO or Bigfoot either. But that's an angel right there.
This sort of reminds me of a story my friend once told me about his dad. His dad fought in Vietnam and Cambodia during the war, and probably helped create a few ghosts himself, if ghosts are indeed real.
Years later, his dad was up late one night drinking and watching TV, when he saw a ghost appear from the wall, which proceeded to walk right in front of him, and disappear through the adjacent wall.
Now, which is more likely - that his dad truly saw a ghost, or that he was drunk off his ass and just seeing shit?
I've heard stories from friends about ghosts and I know they're not lying about it because my friends aren't full of shit like me. But still I'd have to see it to believe it.This sort of reminds me of a story my friend once told me about his dad. His dad fought in Vietnam and Cambodia during the war, and probably helped create a few ghosts himself, if ghosts are indeed real.
Years later, his dad was up late one night drinking and watching TV, when he saw a ghost appear from the wall, which proceeded to walk right in front of him, and disappear through the adjacent wall.
Now, which is more likely - that his dad truly saw a ghost, or that he was drunk off his ass and just seeing shit?
Now a days with photoshop and other computer picture tricks its hard telling. But I can say this guy in the video seems genuine but hey I bought a Matt Lienart jersey when he got drafted too.
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See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
See now, you know I disagree with all of those 'miracles' and yet you expect me to take it as proof of miracles? I'm no more likely to say "oh there was a miracle? Oh ok then, miracles happen! rejoice!" than you are to up and disavow the miracles because all logic, reason and the laws of nature preclude them from ever happening and the only 'proof' you have is a millennia-old book.
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