Hopes, dreams and fears for games 9-16
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Hopes......... I don't have to sell more of my tickets
Dreams...... I get to go to the Super Bowl as a season ticket holder
Fear..... I have spent 100's of thousands of dollars for the worst run sport franchise EVER!!!!!
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I've watched every game Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, this year and Lamar Jackson is the QB I would target. He's 6'3" 205lbs and has 26 touchdowns and close to 3,000 yards through nine games. He's only a sophomore but if he declares that's the guy!
Kizer truly stinks and is over hyped. Remember Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn?! JT Barret from Ohio State is better than Kizer anyway.
Opal-he can't declare. That is the point. You must be at least a Jr. or a redshirt soph to declare. He is a true soph and therefore ineligible to declare for the 2017 draft.
Now basketball is a totally different story, but this is how it works currently for the NFL.
Opal-he can't declare. That is the point. You must be at least a Jr. or a redshirt soph to declare. He is a true soph and therefore ineligible to declare for the 2017 draft.
Now basketball is a totally different story, but this is how it works currently for the NFL.
I wasn't sure about that AG- thanks for clearing it up.
Riiiiight. You constantly point out how neither side of the ball has improved (even though re: offense, pretty much no one agrees with you). You said last week we quit in the second half. You said our halftime adjustments sucked. If I wanted to spend some time, I could probably find a million more examples. So no, I'm not mixed up.
Ha no one agrees with Mud? From a points scored\game standpoint- (29th NFL) I can sure say we've seen no improvement. Is the talent better? Maybe- but that talent hasn't translated into wins,or points. And the defense is flat out terrible. Maybe if we had a defense on the order of the '85 Bears, we might have eked out a few wins by now. Getting beat by an average of 11 per game.
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You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
You can say that all you want, doesn't make it true. You defended the vast majority of questionable Pettine moves to the hilt. With this regime it's nothing but whining about absolutely everything with a ton of being a smartass sprinkled in.
Mud makes more sense than you child. He wants to see good football played like most Browns fans. You seem more like another loser from taxas
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We are now 10 point underdogs to the 4-4 Ravens Th night.
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If that's a joke, I don't get it.
This ought to help...
... sarcastic ahole comments..
DON'T you DARE call Mud sarcastic...
Better?
You loved everything associated with Pettine. Your bitterness over his firing oozes into every post.
Now a serious post...
Bullfuck!
Mud, I and a couple others pointed out the lack of talent on the team in general and the Defense in particular. We felt this was at least a significant, if not the major, reason for the team's lack of success... especially in 2015.
No one ever apologized for Pettine. We simply challenged the majority, which I'd forgotten included you, that Coaching was THE problem. I forgot forgot you were a Farmer guy, that's how much I;ve clung to Pet, but in typing this I suddenly did remember that you were a Manzielot... one of the "good ones".
So it makes sense that you would end up on the other side of our argument since your boy's destructive presence was a burden for any HC, let alone a first timer...
... but that's no reason for you to make shit up...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
But he is sarcastic all the time. Hence the post not making sense.
I liked Farmer and I wanted to keep Pettine. We could hire Mickey Mouse and I would want to see
Him get a minimum of three years.
Last year's team had a ton more talent than this one, and Pettine scratched out three wins. I do believe that with last year's talent and schedule, Hue would have notched at least twice that.
Apologetics, "challenges," whatever verbiage you want to use: you guys defended Pettine. My point is Mud makes no attempt at the same for Hue. You do. You guys are handling this differently.
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Whats funny is that I made one comment on this thread...one......and it was a reference to picking 4 WR's when we desperately needed defense....
And now........Wargo has spent two whole pages bitching about it.....as if my one post ruined the whoie board or something....
And that ONE comment about the FO has now evolved to a rant about how Im not treating Hue right?
Yer an idiot...
And,.....in the end....what Im saying now(about this team and the FO) WILL prove to be true.......
So, go ahead Wargo....rant a few more pages about my terrible posts.....but NOTE that the board is riddled with threads about firing Hue, and 0-16, and this team quitting AND IM NOT ON ANY OF THEM......so before you cast stones at me as some kind of negative jerk and the only guy who cant see the great things that are happening....take a look around,,,,and see who IS on all those threads and who isnt...
and re-read this thread to determine who the real whiny bitch is....
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Still you.
I like how you're using the opinion of others here as validation, yet when most of the board hated Pettine you spent hours and hours trying to change hearts. Pretty much made my point exactly. No benefit of the doubt for Hue from you.
The real prime contender for a firing here is whoever.....taught......you.....punctuation.
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Still you.
I like how you're using the opinion of others here as validation, yet when most of the board hated Pettine you spent hours and hours trying to change hearts. Pretty much made my point exactly. No benefit of the doubt for Hue from you.
The real prime contender for a firing here is whoever.....taught......you.....punctuation.
Lol, and with correct punctuation, you can go up by going down. Please lower it up a bit.Still you.
I like how you're using the opinion of others here as validation, yet when most of the board hated Pettine you spent hours and hours trying to change hearts. Pretty much made my point exactly. No benefit of the doubt for Hue from you.
The real prime contender for a firing here is whoever.....taught......you.....punctuation.
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I liked pettine but hated farmer. I like jackson but hate horton... Unfortunately Jackson an horton are a package deal so sorry hue you made your bed. I do like our front office this go around though and have liked our draft not so much our free agency but i have a feeling that will pick up next year. I get the build from draft but i predict much more activity in free agency this upcoming offseason
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When you get down to punctuation comments.... you've lost...
Nah, I have wanted to say something forever because excessive ellipse users bug the hell out of me and I saw the opening. He apologized (or whatever word you want to use) for Pettine but unloads on Hue. Simple as that. I didn't/won't make a critical evaluation of either in their first year.
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When you get down to punctuation comments.... you've lost...
Nah, I have wanted to say something forever because excessive ellipse users bug the hell out of me and I saw the opening. He apologized (or whatever word you want to use) for Pettine but unloads on Hue. Simple as that. I didn't/won't make a critical evaluation of either in their first year.
He apologized (or whatever word you want to use) for Pettine but unloads on Hue. Simple as that.
This is my last comment(cause Ive said it a billion times)...and then Im out...
1) I did not defend Pettine, I fought against another reboot. Had plenty of issues with both Pettine and Farmer, but argued endlessly that THEY were not the reason the team sucked and that the team would suck even with a new coach. Again....Im not a Pettine fan, Im a reboot hater.....(and I was right, the team isnt any better)
Note: you mentioned in one of your previous comments that you thought Jackson would have won 4 more games with the same team. Does that mean you advocate tearing a 7-9 team down to dust? Cause that would be crazy...right?....who does that?
2) I have NEVER unloaded on Hue. EVER. And, infact, have said a number of times(on this board) that he should NOT be fired(for the same reasons Pettine shouldnt have been fired) and he should have time...but, that does not mean I think he's perfect or a savior either....so, yeah, when I see questionable shit I will say it.....just like I did with Farmer and Pettine many many times....but having a negative critique is not unloading on Hue......I have no issue with Hue, other than him being crowned some type of genius and savior, when he looks more like an average rookie head coach.....actually kind of feel sorry for him....think Shashi is shafting him a bit.....just my opinon
3) And finally.....for like the 3rd time.... In this thread, I went after the FO....FO ....FO......yet you insist I am engaging in some type of Pettine thing. Which makes no sense, considering Im talking about FO.....Ive not mentioned Pettine in one post, but you have thrown him in my face in your last 7 posts.....and you were the one telling me to "get over it".....
How about you do the same....?....K?
it's all spelled out for you....again.....please try to understand this time....and if you still insist on attaching your own meaning of what Im thinking and completely discount what Im telling you Im thinking....then there is no help ......your on your own
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You mean the FO is more responsible for the players on the field than Magical Coach Number 32?
How dare you, sir. I demand satisfaction. Pistols at dawn!
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He apologized (or whatever word you want to use) for Pettine but unloads on Hue. Simple as that.
This is my last comment(cause Ive said it a billion times)...and then Im out...
1) I did not defend Pettine, I fought against another reboot. Had plenty of issues with both Pettine and Farmer, but argued endlessly that THEY were not the reason the team sucked and that the team would suck even with a new coach. Again....Im not a Pettine fan, Im a reboot hater.....(and I was right, the team isnt any better)
Note: you mentioned in one of your previous comments that you thought Jackson would have won 4 more games with the same team. Does that mean you advocate tearing a 7-9 team down to dust? Cause that would be crazy...right?....who does that?
2) I have NEVER unloaded on Hue. EVER. And, infact, have said a number of times(on this board) that he should NOT be fired(for the same reasons Pettine shouldnt have been fired) and he should have time...but, that does not mean I think he's perfect or a savior either....so, yeah, when I see questionable shit I will say it.....just like I did with Farmer and Pettine many many times....but having a negative critique is not unloading on Hue......I have no issue with Hue, other than him being crowned some type of genius and savior, when he looks more like an average rookie head coach.....actually kind of feel sorry for him....think Shashi is shafting him a bit.....just my opinon
3) And finally.....for like the 3rd time.... In this thread, I went after the FO....FO ....FO......yet you insist I am engaging in some type of Pettine thing. Which makes no sense, considering Im talking about FO.....Ive not mentioned Pettine in one post, but you have thrown him in my face in your last 7 posts.....and you were the one telling me to "get over it".....
How about you do the same....?....K?
it's all spelled out for you....again.....please try to understand this time....and if you still insist on attaching your own meaning of what Im thinking and completely discount what Im telling you Im thinking....then there is no help ......your on your own
This is my last comment(cause Ive said it a billion times)...and then Im out...
1) I did not defend Pettine, I fought against another reboot. Had plenty of issues with both Pettine and Farmer, but argued endlessly that THEY were not the reason the team sucked and that the team would suck even with a new coach. Again....Im not a Pettine fan, Im a reboot hater.....(and I was right, the team isnt any better)
Certainly not how I remember it but I'll take your word for it. Regardless, the comments you make now are not even remotely the same. So I guess you're not a reboot hater anymore.
Note: you mentioned in one of your previous comments that you thought Jackson would have won 4 more games with the same team. Does that mean you advocate tearing a 7-9 team down to dust? Cause that would be crazy...right?....who does that?
7-9 as a ceiling with a really good coach? No, not crazy at all. That's a crappy team.
2) I have NEVER unloaded on Hue. EVER. And, infact, have said a number of times(on this board) that he should NOT be fired(for the same reasons Pettine shouldnt have been fired) and he should have time...but, that does not mean I think he's perfect or a savior either....so, yeah, when I see questionable shit I will say it.....just like I did with Farmer and Pettine many many times....but having a negative critique is not unloading on Hue......I have no issue with Hue, other than him being crowned some type of genius and savior, when he looks more like an average rookie head coach.....actually kind of feel sorry for him....think Shashi is shafting him a bit.....just my opinon
I agree to a degree. A small degree.
3) And finally.....for like the 3rd time.... In this thread, I went after the FO....FO ....FO......yet you insist I am engaging in some type of Pettine thing. Which makes no sense, considering Im talking about FO.....Ive not mentioned Pettine in one post, but you have thrown him in my face in your last 7 posts.....and you were the one telling me to "get over it".....
I laid out several examples of you unloading on Hue though.
How about you do the same....?....K?
it's all spelled out for you....again.....please try to understand this time....and if you still insist on attaching your own meaning of what Im thinking and completely discount what Im telling you Im thinking....then there is no help ......your on your own
I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
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Best staff on the planet. Too bad they can't put more points on the board than the opposing team though.
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This is my last comment(cause Ive said it a billion times)...and then Im out...
1) I did not defend Pettine, I fought against another reboot. Had plenty of issues with both Pettine and Farmer, but argued endlessly that THEY were not the reason the team sucked and that the team would suck even with a new coach. Again....Im not a Pettine fan, Im a reboot hater.....(and I was right, the team isnt any better)
Certainly not how I remember it but I'll take your word for it. Regardless, the comments you make now are not even remotely the same. So I guess you're not a reboot hater anymore.
Note: you mentioned in one of your previous comments that you thought Jackson would have won 4 more games with the same team. Does that mean you advocate tearing a 7-9 team down to dust? Cause that would be crazy...right?....who does that?
7-9 as a ceiling with a really good coach? No, not crazy at all. That's a crappy team.
2) I have NEVER unloaded on Hue. EVER. And, infact, have said a number of times(on this board) that he should NOT be fired(for the same reasons Pettine shouldnt have been fired) and he should have time...but, that does not mean I think he's perfect or a savior either....so, yeah, when I see questionable shit I will say it.....just like I did with Farmer and Pettine many many times....but having a negative critique is not unloading on Hue......I have no issue with Hue, other than him being crowned some type of genius and savior, when he looks more like an average rookie head coach.....actually kind of feel sorry for him....think Shashi is shafting him a bit.....just my opinon
I agree to a degree. A small degree.
3) And finally.....for like the 3rd time.... In this thread, I went after the FO....FO ....FO......yet you insist I am engaging in some type of Pettine thing. Which makes no sense, considering Im talking about FO.....Ive not mentioned Pettine in one post, but you have thrown him in my face in your last 7 posts.....and you were the one telling me to "get over it".....
I laid out several examples of you unloading on Hue though.
How about you do the same....?....K?
it's all spelled out for you....again.....please try to understand this time....and if you still insist on attaching your own meaning of what Im thinking and completely discount what Im telling you Im thinking....then there is no help ......your on your own
I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me.
Well....they certainly didnt listen to me last year.....or this year......
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This is my last comment(cause Ive said it a billion times)...and then Im out...
1) I did not defend Pettine, I fought against another reboot. Had plenty of issues with both Pettine and Farmer, but argued endlessly that THEY were not the reason the team sucked and that the team would suck even with a new coach. Again....Im not a Pettine fan, Im a reboot hater.....(and I was right, the team isnt any better)
Certainly not how I remember it but I'll take your word for it. Regardless, the comments you make now are not even remotely the same. So I guess you're not a reboot hater anymore.
Note: you mentioned in one of your previous comments that you thought Jackson would have won 4 more games with the same team. Does that mean you advocate tearing a 7-9 team down to dust? Cause that would be crazy...right?....who does that?
7-9 as a ceiling with a really good coach? No, not crazy at all. That's a crappy team.
2) I have NEVER unloaded on Hue. EVER. And, infact, have said a number of times(on this board) that he should NOT be fired(for the same reasons Pettine shouldnt have been fired) and he should have time...but, that does not mean I think he's perfect or a savior either....so, yeah, when I see questionable shit I will say it.....just like I did with Farmer and Pettine many many times....but having a negative critique is not unloading on Hue......I have no issue with Hue, other than him being crowned some type of genius and savior, when he looks more like an average rookie head coach.....actually kind of feel sorry for him....think Shashi is shafting him a bit.....just my opinon
I agree to a degree. A small degree.
3) And finally.....for like the 3rd time.... In this thread, I went after the FO....FO ....FO......yet you insist I am engaging in some type of Pettine thing. Which makes no sense, considering Im talking about FO.....Ive not mentioned Pettine in one post, but you have thrown him in my face in your last 7 posts.....and you were the one telling me to "get over it".....
I laid out several examples of you unloading on Hue though.
How about you do the same....?....K?
it's all spelled out for you....again.....please try to understand this time....and if you still insist on attaching your own meaning of what Im thinking and completely discount what Im telling you Im thinking....then there is no help ......your on your own
I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
Bro Mud isn't the problem. The inconsistency of the front office is.......
It's good to remain optimistic, but Hue isn't some kind of genius, he's been dealt a rough deck and he's struggling with not much talent.....
As far as Cam Erving goes, maybe he should quit football and become a Chef?
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I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
Bro Mud isn't the problem. The inconsistency of the front office is.......
It's good to remain optimistic, but Hue isn't some kind of genius, he's been dealt a rough deck and he's struggling with not much talent.....
As far as Cam Erving goes, maybe he should quit football and become a Chef?
Bro Mud isn't the problem. The inconsistency of the front office is.......
It's good to remain optimistic, but Hue isn't some kind of genius, he's been dealt a rough deck and he's struggling with not much talent.....
I think part of the reason our O falls off in the second half is that we just don't have the talent to keep it up - in the first half, we can maybe do all kinds of surprise things that catch a team off guard, but that runs out and teams force us to play standard stuff, and we struggle.
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I just wish you could acknowledge that constantly complaining about the staff only aids in their firing. So, as someone against the firing, maybe you could back it up a little bit. I'm sure you'll say "nobody listens to little old me." But I just believe these things spread. Stuff you read on a message board gets talked about around the water cooler. Then in a casual conversation with the boss. Then in the boxes at the stadium. Then it eventually reaches Jimmy. Opinions trickle up all the time and we know how fragile Jimmy is.
Bro Mud isn't the problem. The inconsistency of the front office is.......
It's good to remain optimistic, but Hue isn't some kind of genius, he's been dealt a rough deck and he's struggling with not much talent.....
As far as Cam Erving goes, maybe he should quit football and become a Chef?
As far as Cam Erving goes, maybe he should quit football and become a Chef?
"Sushi With Sashi and Chef Cam!" Yeah, has a nice TV program ring to it. God please make this happen,
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