Harbaugh loses all Credibility
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- I have still yet to hear, from anyone, the justification for allowing the open OSU fan ref to ref. It's ridiculous.
Here is your explanation: because he wasn't.
Again, try not to act as an authority on things you don't know anything about.
I don't see how anyone could think it made sense for this guy to ref the game, when he wasn't allowed to previously.
Again, try not to act as an authority on things you don't know anything about.
I don't see how anyone could think it made sense for this guy to ref the game, when he wasn't allowed to previously.
So, if you all of Michigan thought this guy was biased....why didn't they object to him being there. And the fact is, even if this guy was biased what does that say about the rest of the crew? Were they all biased too?
The fact is, they all let these guys play. Only 8 penalties called on both sides. That is not very many.
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stfu,Meyer gave you guys a t.d on that fuck punt so quit your bitching
Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.
Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.
No, this thread was started by me to point out what a fucking pussy, asswipe, whiny baby Harbaugh is.
Lets concentrate on that, shall we?
Is he going to be like this for the rest of his short career at Michigan? Is he gonna whine about this, whine about that, cry like a baby squeal like a pig. Pout like a 4 year old girl. Pucker his sphincter over every call (that he can't see the play) that goes against him.
As I heard on the radio this morning: Don't fumble the ball, don't throw interceptions. Learn to run the ball. Gain more than 5 yards in the 4th quarter.....and for fuck's sake, don't lose to Iowa.
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as the pot says to the kettle
Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.
Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.
See.....those places where you wrote words on this screen. There you go.
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do you have proof the picture is photoshopped?
What I posted in the first response. "How angles work" would be my answer, lol.
What I posted in the first response. "How angles work" would be my answer, lol.
In other words....no proof. Just your wishing and hoping Dusty.
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Why do you keep denying that you're making every excuse in the book including corrupt mob refs and photoshopped photographic evidence? Just come clean and say you're salty as fuck that meatchicken lost and you're moving through the stages of grief.
Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan. In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
You are right....the photo has nothing to do with it. photoshopped or not. When you see the play on video it is clear he made the first down.
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan.
And I venture to say if we looked close enough there would be just as many against OSU. Like where that receiver got away with a push off.
In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
OSU's biggest mistake was the fact that their QB's accuracy was off. Plus they did have on int. and gave up a big kick return. But Michigan had far more self inflicted wounds.
In case you have never watched a football game before in your life, generall, in big time college football and in the pros, the team that makes the fewest mistakes/turnovers often wins.
Something to keep in mind for the future for you.
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MAYBE one, huh?
First question, is this a penalty?
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In this one...it should have clearly been the Michigan player that would have been called...HE grabbed the OSU player around the shoulder.
ok, how about this?
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Yep, again UM player is the one initiating the contact and doing the grabbing.
Guess which one was called?
Neither should have been called on OSU.. The first one should have been called on Michigan.
How about this?
That one, probably.
So...that is one. Wouldn't have mattered, UM would have just turned it over the next play anyway.
Lol!That one, probably.
So...that is one. Wouldn't have mattered, UM would have just turned it over the next play anyway.
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Woody is now right up there with warrior fans in June and Jose Bautista claiming the refs screwed you. Every team that loses a demoralizing game wants to point blame at anyone but themselves.
Woody is now right up there with warrior fans in June and Jose Bautista claiming the refs screwed you. Every team that loses a demoralizing game wants to point blame at anyone but themselves.
I've already said Michigan could have played better. There are a number of mistakes that could have been corrected.
That doesn't excuse blatant missed calls and known biased refs
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Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?
- They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.
- There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?
- The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.
Is this all clear to you now?
Except, of course for the fact that the so called photoshop....shows exactly what happened. Barrett crossed the line, and then got pushed back...and all you and Harbaugh see is where he was when he got pushed back.
There is this thing in football called "forward progress"....I suggest you and Jim boy look it up and learn about it.
Except, of course for the fact that the so called photoshop....shows exactly what happened. Barrett crossed the line, and then got pushed back...and all you and Harbaugh see is where he was when he got pushed back.
There is this thing in football called "forward progress"....I suggest you and Jim boy look it up and learn about it.
I haven't once claimed he for sure didn't make it. I'm just telling you the photo in your OP is Photoshopped. Angles don't work like that.
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Lol, wait, are you saying the 2nd GIF i posted SHOULDN'T have been a foul on OSU?
Hahaha, come on man. Are you THAT biased?
No, YOU are. Because that should not have been called. The receiver initiated the contact....and if a foul was to be called it would have been on the receiver. So....a no call was the best you could ask for.
That penalty also mattered a great deal, as it would have kept our last 4th quarter drive alive. And any time OSU lost in their final drive to tie it up would have been huge.
"That" penalty? Which penalty? Not the second gif. The third probably.
Lol, wait, are you saying the 2nd GIF i posted SHOULDN'T have been a foul on OSU?
Hahaha, come on man. Are you THAT biased?
No, YOU are. Because that should not have been called. The receiver initiated the contact....and if a foul was to be called it would have been on the receiver. So....a no call was the best you could ask for.
That penalty also mattered a great deal, as it would have kept our last 4th quarter drive alive. And any time OSU lost in their final drive to tie it up would have been huge.
"That" penalty? Which penalty? Not the second gif. The third probably.
WRs initiate contact to get off of a press all of the time. That doesn't allow the defender to clearly hold them as they try to run by, and when the ball is in the air. I don't even understand how you could think that isn't a foul. All of the OSU fans I know even admit that's a foul.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Again, try not to act as an authority on things you don't know anything about.
I don't see how anyone could think it made sense for this guy to ref the game, when he wasn't allowed to previously.
So, if you all of Michigan thought this guy was biased....why didn't they object to him being there. And the fact is, even if this guy was biased what does that say about the rest of the crew? Were they all biased too?
The fact is, they all let these guys play. Only 8 penalties called on both sides. That is not very many.
So, if you all of Michigan thought this guy was biased....why didn't they object to him being there. And the fact is, even if this guy was biased what does that say about the rest of the crew? Were they all biased too?
The fact is, they all let these guys play. Only 8 penalties called on both sides. That is not very many.
I'm not sure Michigan has any control over the refs. Either way, that doesn't change the fact this guy explicitly wasn't able to ref the game before. Why what it be allowed now?
If the Big Ten already determined this guy to be biased, why is he even an option?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.
No, this thread was started by me to point out what a fucking pussy, asswipe, whiny baby Harbaugh is.
Lets concentrate on that, shall we?
Is he going to be like this for the rest of his short career at Michigan? Is he gonna whine about this, whine about that, cry like a baby squeal like a pig. Pout like a 4 year old girl. Pucker his sphincter over every call (that he can't see the play) that goes against him.
As I heard on the radio this morning: Don't fumble the ball, don't throw interceptions. Learn to run the ball. Gain more than 5 yards in the 4th quarter.....and for fuck's sake, don't lose to Iowa.
No, this thread was started by me to point out what a fucking pussy, asswipe, whiny baby Harbaugh is.
Lets concentrate on that, shall we?
Is he going to be like this for the rest of his short career at Michigan? Is he gonna whine about this, whine about that, cry like a baby squeal like a pig. Pout like a 4 year old girl. Pucker his sphincter over every call (that he can't see the play) that goes against him.
As I heard on the radio this morning: Don't fumble the ball, don't throw interceptions. Learn to run the ball. Gain more than 5 yards in the 4th quarter.....and for fuck's sake, don't lose to Iowa.
None of that lets bad officiating off of the hook. objectively biased officiating (as previously determined by the Big Ten).
You can call him a crybaby all you want, but that isn't making his claim less credible.
His complaint has also gained a national narrative. Various reporters are echoing the fact Michigan got the bum end of the officiating. One AP poller even ranked Michigan ahead of OSU.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
You are right....the photo has nothing to do with it. photoshopped or not. When you see the play on video it is clear he made the first down.
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan.
And I venture to say if we looked close enough there would be just as many against OSU. Like where that receiver got away with a push off.
In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
OSU's biggest mistake was the fact that their QB's accuracy was off. Plus they did have on int. and gave up a big kick return. But Michigan had far more self inflicted wounds.
In case you have never watched a football game before in your life, generall, in big time college football and in the pros, the team that makes the fewest mistakes/turnovers often wins.
Something to keep in mind for the future for you.
Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
You are right....the photo has nothing to do with it. photoshopped or not. When you see the play on video it is clear he made the first down.
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan.
And I venture to say if we looked close enough there would be just as many against OSU. Like where that receiver got away with a push off.
In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
OSU's biggest mistake was the fact that their QB's accuracy was off. Plus they did have on int. and gave up a big kick return. But Michigan had far more self inflicted wounds.
In case you have never watched a football game before in your life, generall, in big time college football and in the pros, the team that makes the fewest mistakes/turnovers often wins.
Something to keep in mind for the future for you.
Then look into it. Show me the bad officiating that hurt OSU. I have multiple instances of it hurting Michigan. Your turn.
Yes, I get that. I've said multiple times in this thread if we played a little better the refs don't matter. But, AGAIN, that doesn't excuse poor and biased officiating.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Lol, wait, are you saying the 2nd GIF i posted SHOULDN'T have been a foul on OSU?
Hahaha, come on man. Are you THAT biased?
No, YOU are. Because that should not have been called. The receiver initiated the contact....and if a foul was to be called it would have been on the receiver. So....a no call was the best you could ask for.
That penalty also mattered a great deal, as it would have kept our last 4th quarter drive alive. And any time OSU lost in their final drive to tie it up would have been huge.
"That" penalty? Which penalty? Not the second gif. The third probably.
WRs initiate contact to get off of a press all of the time. That doesn't allow the defender to clearly hold them as they try to run by, and when the ball is in the air. I don't even understand how you could think that isn't a foul. All of the OSU fans I know even admit that's a foul.
WRs initiate contact to get off of a press all of the time. That doesn't allow the defender to clearly hold them as they try to run by, and when the ball is in the air. I don't even understand how you could think that isn't a foul. All of the OSU fans I know even admit that's a foul.
I do think it was a foul.....on the UM receiver...for pushing off. The fact that they do it all the time and don't get called does not make it not a foul.
If you say that there was a foul on OSU, then there were mutual fouls on the play...and so the non call is probably appropriated.
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So, if you all of Michigan thought this guy was biased....why didn't they object to him being there. And the fact is, even if this guy was biased what does that say about the rest of the crew? Were they all biased too?
The fact is, they all let these guys play. Only 8 penalties called on both sides. That is not very many.
I'm not sure Michigan has any control over the refs. Either way, that doesn't change the fact this guy explicitly wasn't able to ref the game before. Why what it be allowed now?
If the Big Ten already determined this guy to be biased, why is he even an option?
I'm not sure Michigan has any control over the refs. Either way, that doesn't change the fact this guy explicitly wasn't able to ref the game before. Why what it be allowed now?
If the Big Ten already determined this guy to be biased, why is he even an option?
Do I look like the Big Ten Commish? How should I know? Take you question to the league.
And you are even whinier that Harbaugh.....I have heard no objections by him over this.
You know, they don't grow refs in a test tube. They come from somewhere. I suggest that there may even be a Big Ten ref out there somewhat that, God forbid, grew up in Michigan.
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No, this thread was started by me to point out what a fucking pussy, asswipe, whiny baby Harbaugh is.
Lets concentrate on that, shall we?
Is he going to be like this for the rest of his short career at Michigan? Is he gonna whine about this, whine about that, cry like a baby squeal like a pig. Pout like a 4 year old girl. Pucker his sphincter over every call (that he can't see the play) that goes against him.
As I heard on the radio this morning: Don't fumble the ball, don't throw interceptions. Learn to run the ball. Gain more than 5 yards in the 4th quarter.....and for fuck's sake, don't lose to Iowa.
None of that lets bad officiating off of the hook. objectively biased officiating (as previously determined by the Big Ten).
You can call him a crybaby all you want, but that isn't making his claim less credible.
His complaint has also gained a national narrative. Various reporters are echoing the fact Michigan got the bum end of the officiating. One AP poller even ranked Michigan ahead of OSU.
None of that lets bad officiating off of the hook. objectively biased officiating (as previously determined by the Big Ten).
You can call him a crybaby all you want, but that isn't making his claim less credible.
No, the fact that he is dead red ass wrong is what makes him less credible.
His complaint has also gained a national narrative. Various reporters are echoing the fact Michigan got the bum end of the officiating. One AP poller even ranked Michigan ahead of OSU.
Probably a Michigan voter. So, there, your bias claim evens out. The National narrative that is going around is the fact that he is being such a whiny little bitch.
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Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
You are right....the photo has nothing to do with it. photoshopped or not. When you see the play on video it is clear he made the first down.
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan.
And I venture to say if we looked close enough there would be just as many against OSU. Like where that receiver got away with a push off.
In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
OSU's biggest mistake was the fact that their QB's accuracy was off. Plus they did have on int. and gave up a big kick return. But Michigan had far more self inflicted wounds.
In case you have never watched a football game before in your life, generall, in big time college football and in the pros, the team that makes the fewest mistakes/turnovers often wins.
Something to keep in mind for the future for you.
Then look into it. Show me the bad officiating that hurt OSU. I have multiple instances of it hurting Michigan. Your turn.
Yes, I get that. I've said multiple times in this thread if we played a little better the refs don't matter. But, AGAIN, that doesn't excuse poor and biased officiating.
Then look into it. Show me the bad officiating that hurt OSU. I have multiple instances of it hurting Michigan. Your turn.
I don't have to look into it. Scoreboard.
Yes, I get that. I've said multiple times in this thread if we played a little better the refs don't matter. But, AGAIN, that doesn't excuse poor and biased officiating.
If there were any....but there was little and none involved.
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Does anyone find it a little creepy how much Harbaugh wants to be schembechler? I would not be the least bit surprised if he started calling himself jimbo harbechler
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Right or wrong, Harbaugh should have handled the loss with class & dignity, then walked off the podium with his head held high. Instead, he left a perception of himself as a whiner.
Bottom line is that the pick 6 & fumble on the 1-2 yard line did NOT involve the Refs. That's why you lost....that & the fact that Urban Meyer coached Teams are relentless. Way to go Bucks!!!
Game's over Jim. Your Team lost...be a man, accept it & come back stronger next time.
Mike
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Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....
You are right....the photo has nothing to do with it. photoshopped or not. When you see the play on video it is clear he made the first down.
I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan.
And I venture to say if we looked close enough there would be just as many against OSU. Like where that receiver got away with a push off.
In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.
OSU's biggest mistake was the fact that their QB's accuracy was off. Plus they did have on int. and gave up a big kick return. But Michigan had far more self inflicted wounds.
In case you have never watched a football game before in your life, generall, in big time college football and in the pros, the team that makes the fewest mistakes/turnovers often wins.
Something to keep in mind for the future for you.
Then look into it. Show me the bad officiating that hurt OSU. I have multiple instances of it hurting Michigan. Your turn.
Yes, I get that. I've said multiple times in this thread if we played a little better the refs don't matter. But, AGAIN, that doesn't excuse poor and biased officiating.
Then look into it. Show me the bad officiating that hurt OSU. I have multiple instances of it hurting Michigan. Your turn.
Yes, I get that. I've said multiple times in this thread if we played a little better the refs don't matter. But, AGAIN, that doesn't excuse poor and biased officiating.
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Don't the "all-22" clips come out the Monday after college games? So the fact that the pro-OSU picture of the 4th down conversion was not shown during the game has no bearing on anything, Woody.
Also, look into the contact within the first 5 yards rule.
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