Stop Saying I told you so
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Good post.
Been singing the same song, different hymnal.
Mine goes:
Dallas Cowboys 1989 1-15
Dallas Cowboys 1992 Lost NFC championship to Lions
Dallas Cowboys 1993 Super Bowl champs
Get the reboot right.
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The Vegas over/under was 4.5 wins.
The Vegas over/under was 4.5 wins.
as was Shashis....
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I agree with this coming draft, save for a truly blockbuster deal.
I think we nabbed more than a handful of long term starters and role players in this last draft, which we did not have prior. I count four guys off the top of my head who could turn into easy long term starters for us.
33%? guess it's better than 32%
oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?
33%? guess it's better than 32%
oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?
Want to compare that to past Browns' hit rates?
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Want to compare that to past Browns' hit rates?
have at it.
i know some might say four players......i'm thinking it's more like two.
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How will we know?
Actually I'd bet the 1-win + 0-win pack would be under 25%... but can't prove it.
Tried searching the forum several ways and not finding a prediction thread for 2016 other than this thinly participated one:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41066&hl=predict%2A
Maybe someone else will have better luck...
I had us at about 2-14, but I figured both wins would come in the first 6 games. Once we got to 0-8, I figured we'd go winless, maybe 1 victory in the last week or three.
I had us at about 2-14, but I figured both wins would come in the first 6 games. Once we got to 0-8, I figured we'd go winless, maybe 1 victory in the last week or three.
I thought 2-2 start (+/-) then maybe a decent push at the end with the favorable home schedule and week 13 bye....
.....not the worst BROWNS team since WWII. Ouch.
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I agree with this coming draft, save for a truly blockbuster deal.
I think we nabbed more than a handful of long term starters and role players in this last draft, which we did not have prior. I count four guys off the top of my head who could turn into easy long term starters for us.
33%? guess it's better than 32%
oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?
33%? guess it's better than 32%
oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?
If I knew what you were talking about, I might be more inclined to have a real response.
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my bad it's 35%. you said four players were solid picks and will be on the roster going forward. 4 outta 14 picks. 1 in 3.5 or 35%.
and the 'i told you so' was to get under the OPs skin.
meanwhile tell me which four players you think will latch on and be solid NFL players? Nassib? Ogbah? Kessler? Coleman?
pretty sad commentary considering other teams pick talent that come in and take over the league with their talent.
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Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
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I'm with jrb. For fuck's sake everybody was predicting the team to go 1 + 15 or 0 and 16 and now we're surprised as shit.
My only concern is that there isn't anybody at the top of the draft worth tanking to get. That means nobody is going to want to make a blockbuster trade even.
WSS
I think there's two great prospects (Allen and Garrett) that have game changing potential. Unless something drastic changes either of those guys would be a great upgrade.
Hey I have no doubt there's a handful of guys that would be a great upgrade. First pick of the draft great?I think there's two great prospects (Allen and Garrett) that have game changing potential. Unless something drastic changes either of those guys would be a great upgrade.
I'm thinking Elway, Suh, LT, somebody along those lines.
And that's assuming that Sushi and depodesta can find their ass with both hands and remember not to select a designated hitter.
WSS
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I like the way these guys are doing it. Sure its the most painful thing ive ever witnessed, but it actually feels right this time. Purging all the past years mediocre talent has been this teams biggest issue till this year. Browns have been trying to make it work with Trail mix. Weve had 3-4, 5-2, 4-3, and hybrid guys on defense while on offense tryin to make it work with spread, west coast, ground and pound and WildDawg characters. This team has had no identity for over a decade and these guys are basically using the eraser till they have a blank sheet. Sticking with these guys for a long period of time will result in better continuity and at the very least give the next group of guys a better shot at correcting the problem. The next regime will say "Well at least I can see what they were doing."
I wonder if Joe Thomas keeps his offensive playbooks that new coaches or coordinators give him. Can you imagine. He opens up a closet door and a chizinsky playbook falls out and he picks it up and is like hold on I think I have the 2nd one he gave me a few later in here. And he just starts going thru a stack of playbooks
I like the way these guys are doing it. Sure its the most painful thing ive ever witnessed, but it actually feels right this time.
You know I suspect that's exactly what people in prison say about their 2nd "date".
I wonder if Jimmah will hold auditions for court Jester. I could use the $$.
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Party at Napoli's?
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Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
MATH RULES!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
what years and what two?
funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.
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Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.
what years and what two?
funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.
what years and what two?
funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.
Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.
2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.
2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team
2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.
how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.
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what years and what two?
funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.
Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.
2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.
2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team
2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.
how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.
Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.
2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.
2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team
2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.
how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.
so as far as i can tell farmer did no worse in his drafts than sashi and co. did last year.
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