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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @westside-steve said:

    I'm with jrb. For fuck's sake everybody was predicting the team to go 1 + 15 or 0 and 16 and now we're surprised as shit.

    My only concern is that there isn't anybody at the top of the draft worth tanking to get. That means nobody is going to want to make a blockbuster trade even.

    WSS

    I think there's two great prospects (Allen and Garrett) that have game changing potential. Unless something drastic changes either of those guys would be a great upgrade.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I think there's two great prospects (Allen and Garrett) that have game changing potential. Unless something drastic changes either of those guys would be a great upgrade.

    Hey I have no doubt there's a handful of guys that would be a great upgrade. First pick of the draft great?

    I'm thinking Elway, Suh, LT, somebody along those lines.

    And that's assuming that Sushi and depodesta can find their ass with both hands and remember not to select a designated hitter.

    WSS

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  • cdl15C cdl15

    I like the way these guys are doing it. Sure its the most painful thing ive ever witnessed, but it actually feels right this time. Purging all the past years mediocre talent has been this teams biggest issue till this year. Browns have been trying to make it work with Trail mix. Weve had 3-4, 5-2, 4-3, and hybrid guys on defense while on offense tryin to make it work with spread, west coast, ground and pound and WildDawg characters. This team has had no identity for over a decade and these guys are basically using the eraser till they have a blank sheet. Sticking with these guys for a long period of time will result in better continuity and at the very least give the next group of guys a better shot at correcting the problem. The next regime will say "Well at least I can see what they were doing."

    I wonder if Joe Thomas keeps his offensive playbooks that new coaches or coordinators give him. Can you imagine. He opens up a closet door and a chizinsky playbook falls out and he picks it up and is like hold on I think I have the 2nd one he gave me a few later in here. And he just starts going thru a stack of playbooks

    @cdl15 said:

    I like the way these guys are doing it. Sure its the most painful thing ive ever witnessed, but it actually feels right this time.

    You know I suspect that's exactly what people in prison say about their 2nd "date".

    I wonder if Jimmah will hold auditions for court Jester. I could use the $$. 😁

  • Party at Napoli's?

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    @gftchris said:

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    MATH RULES!

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @gftchris said:

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    MATH RULES!

    @tour2ma said:

    MATH RULES!

    True, and to that end we should use Watson to make our picks. Our math right now is based on theory and can be wrong.

  • You're right. Spot on post. I told you guys someone would make this thread.

  • A Alkid3

    You're right. Spot on post. I told you guys someone would make this thread.

    @alkid3 said:

    You're right. Spot on post. I told you guys someone would make this thread.

    I see what you did there...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    @gftchris said:

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    what years and what two?

    funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @gftchris said:

    Hit Rate is pointless. The FO is working on the assumption that hit rate is roughly the same whatever happens, so more picks = more hits. And hey! 4 hits this year compared to 2 in previous years. Look at that. Magic.

    what years and what two?

    funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.

    @miktoxic said:

    what years and what two?

    funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.

    Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.

    2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.

    2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team

    2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.

    how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @miktoxic said:

    what years and what two?

    funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.

    Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.

    2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.

    2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team

    2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.

    how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.

    @gftchris said:

    Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.

    2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.

    2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team

    2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.

    how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.

    so as far as i can tell farmer did no worse in his drafts than sashi and co. did last year.

  • You are not looking hard enough...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I'm looking for any real signs of improvement. You would think our special teams would be showing a bit more pop but they have been as bad as other areas. Nobody standing out as a future force aka all pro.

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