Why we need a QB in Top 5
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Just a note on the original post. See the following:
Teams that had 3 QBs primarily associated with them:
49ers, Packers, Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles, Chargers, Oilers/Tits, Giants, Rams
Teams that had 2 QBs primarily associated with them:
Pats, Colts, Dolphins, Saints, Steelers, Bengals, Raiders
Teams with just one QB associated with them:
Browns, Broncos, Vikings, Chiefs, Lions, Jets, Bears, Bills, Falcons
Teams that had no QBs associated with them:
Jaguars
Seahawks....though Wilson could eventually join list
Cardinals
Texans
Bucs
Panthers...though Newton could join list
Ravens...though Flacco could join list.
Odd that between the 2 oldest NFL franchises...Bears/Cards....only one top 50 QB....Sid Luckman from the 30s/40s is associated with them.
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I expect that whomever we take to have his name placed one day with the people list in the OP. Its about time don't you think?
I'd love that....Just don't think that the QB's in this draft are in the same class as the guys on that initial list.
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Pretty simple. This is a weak QB draft class. So players with 3rd round value find themselves going 2nd. Players with 2nd see themselves going 1st round.
Look no further than 2013 with Geno Smith. Second round pick and the kid was a very questionable pick even then.
The wise stay put, do not artifically inflate the value of a given player do to the relative weakness of their fellow classmates and let the draft come to you.
In other words, no QB #1. Probably not even top 10.
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I expect that whomever we take to have his name placed one day with the people list in the OP. Its about time don't you think?
I'd love that....Just don't think that the QB's in this draft are in the same class as the guys on that initial list.
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Pretty simple. This is a weak QB draft class. So players with 3rd round value find themselves going 2nd. Players with 2nd see themselves going 1st round.
Look no further than 2013 with Geno Smith. Second round pick and the kid was a very questionable pick even then.
The wise stay put, do not artifically inflate the value of a given player do to the relative weakness of their fellow classmates and let the draft come to you.
In other words, no QB #1. Probably not even top 10.
Pretty simple. This is a weak QB draft class. So players with 3rd round value find themselves going 2nd. Players with 2nd see themselves going 1st round.
Look no further than 2013 with Geno Smith. Second round pick and the kid was a very questionable pick even then.
The wise stay put, do not artifically inflate the value of a given player do to the relative weakness of their fellow classmates and let the draft come to you.
In other words, no QB #1. Probably not even top 10.
Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
And the double wrong part is that yes, these two QBs WILL grade out to be Top Ten prospects.
What dozen miracle football players out there at other positions are going to impress the scouts SO much that they are ALL going to abandon their need for a QB to take these other guys.
That's right.....no one.
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Pretty simple. This is a weak QB draft class. So players with 3rd round value find themselves going 2nd. Players with 2nd see themselves going 1st round.
Look no further than 2013 with Geno Smith. Second round pick and the kid was a very questionable pick even then.
The wise stay put, do not artifically inflate the value of a given player do to the relative weakness of their fellow classmates and let the draft come to you.
In other words, no QB #1. Probably not even top 10.
Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
And the double wrong part is that yes, these two QBs WILL grade out to be Top Ten prospects.
What dozen miracle football players out there at other positions are going to impress the scouts SO much that they are ALL going to abandon their need for a QB to take these other guys.
That's right.....no one.
Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
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Pretty simple. This is a weak QB draft class. So players with 3rd round value find themselves going 2nd. Players with 2nd see themselves going 1st round.
Look no further than 2013 with Geno Smith. Second round pick and the kid was a very questionable pick even then.
The wise stay put, do not artifically inflate the value of a given player do to the relative weakness of their fellow classmates and let the draft come to you.
In other words, no QB #1. Probably not even top 10.
Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
And the double wrong part is that yes, these two QBs WILL grade out to be Top Ten prospects.
What dozen miracle football players out there at other positions are going to impress the scouts SO much that they are ALL going to abandon their need for a QB to take these other guys.
That's right.....no one.
When was the last time a QB was not drafted in the top 10?Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
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When was the last time a QB was not drafted in the top 10?Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
When was the last time a QB was not drafted in the top 10?
2013. Which is EXACTLY the point I'm attempting to highlight.
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When was the last time a QB was not drafted in the top 10?
2013. Which is EXACTLY the point I'm attempting to highlight.
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Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
Right....you pick a QB because he appears to be an outstanding prospect.
I mean....do you not fucking get what I am fucking saying? I think this guy has Aaron Rodgers like talent.
I am not fucking stuttering.
Do you now understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.
There is NO fucking artificially inflating value.
If you disagree....so be it. But your opinion on this matter is not worth a cabbage fart more than anyone else's.
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Except, of course, to quote Captain Kirk...you are double dumbass wrong. AT LEAST 2 QBs will go in the Top ten. Trubisky and Watson.
Where on God's Green Earth did you get the idea that teams with desperate needs for a QB are not going to go after a QB: Browns, Jets, Bears, 49ers. Minimumly will be looking for QB. And some may even want to trade up higher to get one.
Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
And if you pass on all of the top 3 and just one of them becomes good to great and you had the #1 pick?
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Season of angst. Come on guys, chill out on the draft.
Gip picked a guy so he has to ride it into the ground. It is his thing. Facts don't matter. Trubisky said he wants to be a Brown thus Aaron Rodgers haha.
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Was my post about a weak draft class NOT clear in some way? You DON"T pick a QB that high, because he looks like he might have a few flower peddles among a garden of weeds.
That it artificially inflates value of players that are lesser against previous prospects by a great margin? At any point that registers, let me know... then form a counter argument against it.
Right....you pick a QB because he appears to be an outstanding prospect.
I mean....do you not fucking get what I am fucking saying? I think this guy has Aaron Rodgers like talent.
I am not fucking stuttering.
Do you now understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.
There is NO fucking artificially inflating value.
If you disagree....so be it. But your opinion on this matter is not worth a cabbage fart more than anyone else's.
Right....you pick a QB because he appears to be an outstanding prospect.
I mean....do you not fucking get what I am fucking saying? I think this guy has Aaron Rodgers like talent.
I am not fucking stuttering.
Do you now understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.
There is NO fucking artificially inflating value.
If you disagree....so be it. But your opinion on this matter is not worth a cabbage fart more than anyone else's.
What about Trubisky's game reminds you of Aaron Rodgers? Any particular game we should check out?
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Gip picked a guy so he has to ride it into the ground. It is his thing. Facts don't matter. Trubisky said he wants to be Brown thus Aaron Rodgers haha.
I don't see it in him. But if we pick him, I'll be his biggest fan.
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Gip picked a guy so he has to ride it into the ground. It is his thing. Facts don't matter. Trubisky said he wants to be Brown thus Aaron Rodgers haha.
I don't see it in him. But if we pick him, I'll be his biggest fan.
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To throw a wrench into everything
http://www.wkyc.com/sports/nfl/bengals-aj-mccarron-ready-for-a-trade/381358220
offer up one of our many late-round draft picks for A.J. McCarron and use our early round picks drafting BPA. Browns have so many holes, it doesn't matter what position they draft as long as they get the best possible football player they can get. Or just stick with Kessler, save the draft picks and fix this horrible defense and get some depth on the offensive line. Just don't waste a high draft pick on a QB that will end up getting killed on this team.
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i looked up "red flag" in the dictionary and it turns out the definition is when an NFL team is willing to trade a quarterback within the division.
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To throw a wrench into everything
http://www.wkyc.com/sports/nfl/bengals-aj-mccarron-ready-for-a-trade/381358220
offer up one of our many late-round draft picks for A.J. McCarron and use our early round picks drafting BPA. Browns have so many holes, it doesn't matter what position they draft as long as they get the best possible football player they can get. Or just stick with Kessler, save the draft picks and fix this horrible defense and get some depth on the offensive line. Just don't waste a high draft pick on a QB that will end up getting killed on this team.
To throw a wrench into everything
http://www.wkyc.com/sports/nfl/bengals-aj-mccarron-ready-for-a-trade/381358220
offer up one of our many late-round draft picks for A.J. McCarron and use our early round picks drafting BPA. Browns have so many holes, it doesn't matter what position they draft as long as they get the best possible football player they can get. Or just stick with Kessler, save the draft picks and fix this horrible defense and get some depth on the offensive line. Just don't waste a high draft pick on a QB that will end up getting killed on this team.
Defensive pass rushers round one (with this deep class there will be two there @ 1 and 12) and C plus OL round 2. Round 3 should still have a good Safety available. I could also live with a pass rusher and a CB at 1 and 12 since Ogbah will get better with a pure pass rusher on the opposite end.
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Gip picked a guy so he has to ride it into the ground. It is his thing. Facts don't matter. Trubisky said he wants to be a Brown thus Aaron Rodgers haha.
Facts do matter.......but this IS a matter of talent evaluation.....which is obviously based on opinion.
But here is a fact: In my opinion this guy has Aaron Rodgers like talent and aptitude. It has nothing to do with where he is from.
The Browns passed on BR. They passed on Rodgers. They passed on Carr. And others....and we have been in QB hell. I just want us to get out of Hell. And I think this guy can get us there better than anyone.
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