The New "Hold on, What if" thread for the first round
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yep. overthinking it. But there is no qb at the top of this draft. that is just foolish.
But Adams is a possibility, maybe. I'm just having the impression of Mingo being
superimposed over the impression of Garrett, and wondering if they line up much....
Here's some stats of this year's top prospects in varying schemes and techniques:
Myles Garrett had 32.5 sacks and 48.5 Tackles For Losses (TFLs) the last 3 years
Derek Barnett had 33 sacks and 52 TFLs the last 3 years
Jonathan Allen had 27.5 sacks and 41.5 TFLs the last 3 years
Solomon Thomas had 11.5 sacks and 25.5 TFLs the last 2 years
Previously:
Bark Mingo had 15 sacks and 29 TFLs his last 3 years at LSU
Here's some stats of this year's top prospects in varying schemes and techniques:
Myles Garrett had 32.5 sacks and 48.5 Tackles For Losses (TFLs) the last 3 years
Derek Barnett had 33 sacks and 52 TFLs the last 3 years
Jonathan Allen had 27.5 sacks and 41.5 TFLs the last 3 years
Solomon Thomas had 11.5 sacks and 25.5 TFLs the last 2 years
Previously:
Bark Mingo had 15 sacks and 29 TFLs his last 3 years at LSU
What were Garrett and Barnett's stats vs SEC opponents? I heard they were in Barnett's favor pretty big, which if true, is concerning.
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Garett is no mingo. Yeah his run defense needs work but cmon, mingo was a safety LSU bulked up just enough to put on the line and send around the wide edge. It worked in college cause LSU.
Garrett has been scrapping with lineman enough that im not worried he'll be terribly overwhelmed. But his reps need metered otherwise we risk getting him dinged up. I think nassibs hand injury greatly hampered his development so we need to what we can to min that risk to garett
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Im kind of starting to get keen on that usc kid darnold. Suck next year for sam?
If we were still in the 3-4, then there's no telling what our Mingo-ization capacity might be... But, no... Mingo and Garrett are nothing alike.
Mingo was a one-move wonder... speed... with an inside swim on a good day... and a slow OT. He only dreamt of bull-rushing and ripping...
Im kind of starting to get keen on that usc kid darnold. Suck next year for sam?
Haven't watched the kid yet, but if he's the one, then that's what it might takes. But as of right now SF and us stand as the QB-neediest, and they have to be the likeliest contender for the 2017 basement.
But some ream almost always surprises to the downside... often a team "set" at QB, but lose him to injury. So hello trade partner...
yep. overthinking it.
On the bright side... may be the first time I've accused you of thinking...
Garrett will help this team win about as much as Clowney does for the texans.
So we're only going 9 and 7 this year? Imagine our disappointment...
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If we were still in the 3-4, then there's no telling what our Mingo-ization capacity might be... But, no... Mingo and Garrett are nothing alike.
Mingo was a one-move wonder... speed... with an inside swim on a good day... and a slow OT. He only dreamt of bull-rushing and ripping...
Im kind of starting to get keen on that usc kid darnold. Suck next year for sam?
Haven't watched the kid yet, but if he's the one, then that's what it might takes. But as of right now SF and us stand as the QB-neediest, and they have to be the likeliest contender for the 2017 basement.
But some ream almost always surprises to the downside... often a team "set" at QB, but lose him to injury. So hello trade partner...
yep. overthinking it.
On the bright side... may be the first time I've accused you of thinking...
Garrett will help this team win about as much as Clowney does for the texans.
So we're only going 9 and 7 this year? Imagine our disappointment...
So we're only going 9 and 7 this year? Imagine our disappointment...
God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
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So we're only going 9 and 7 this year? Imagine our disappointment...
God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
Subtlety is not your strong suit, is it?
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God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
Subtlety is not your strong suit, is it?
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On the bright side... may be the first time I've accused you of thinking...
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Here's some stats of this year's top prospects in varying schemes and techniques:
Myles Garrett had 32.5 sacks and 48.5 Tackles For Losses (TFLs) the last 3 years
Derek Barnett had 33 sacks and 52 TFLs the last 3 years
Jonathan Allen had 27.5 sacks and 41.5 TFLs the last 3 years
Solomon Thomas had 11.5 sacks and 25.5 TFLs the last 2 years
Previously:
Bark Mingo had 15 sacks and 29 TFLs his last 3 years at LSU
What were Garrett and Barnett's stats vs SEC opponents? I heard they were in Barnett's favor pretty big, which if true, is concerning.
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I see bust potential with Garrett. That said, the ceiling is so high I think you have to take him.
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I see bust potential with Garrett. That said, the ceiling is so high I think you have to take him.
I see bust potential with Garrett. That said, the ceiling is so high I think you have to take him.
Hedging your bets I see.
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I don't post much on here , but I feel like there is one factor here that hasn't been brought up.
This kid is consensus #1 pick....Every team in the league picks Garrett with the first pick.Even BB with his shiny new Lombardi would not pass on this guy.
Why? Because he's that much better than anybody else,and no GM wants to be the guy who passed on Lawrence Taylor .... To pick George Rodgers!!!
That doesn't mean he's the next LT, but the measurables are there that say he's the closest this draft has to offer as a sure thing...
and you make that choice every, single, time! And so do the other 31 teams.
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I don't post much on here , but I feel like there is one factor here that hasn't been brought up.
This kid is consensus #1 pick....Every team in the league picks Garrett with the first pick.Even BB with his shiny new Lombardi would not pass on this guy.
Why? Because he's that much better than anybody else,and no GM wants to be the guy who passed on Lawrence Taylor .... To pick George Rodgers!!!
That doesn't mean he's the next LT, but the measurables are there that say he's the closest this draft has to offer as a sure thing...
and you make that choice every, single, time! And so do the other 31 teams.
... no GM wants to be the guy who passed on Lawrence Taylor .... To pick George Rodgers!!!If you have this good of a football memory, then you need to post more.
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... no GM wants to be the guy who passed on Lawrence Taylor .... To pick George Rodgers!!!
If you have this good of a football memory, then you need to post more.
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I see bust potential with Garrett. That said, the ceiling is so high I think you have to take him.
Hedging your bets I see.
Hedging your bets I see.
I've never gone all in on Garrett at all, so no. In fact I have been vocal at times about how he's not street tough (I know he's played through injury, that's not what I'm talking about), may retire to become an author in 5 years, and tires easily.
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So we're only going 9 and 7 this year? Imagine our disappointment...
God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
Ask any texans fan, and I know many of them. They know what they have on D but also know they can't win it because they did not get the QB position correct. They will also tell you they fear their window of opportunity is closing because they don't have a QB and are never picking high enough to get one.
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God what a disaster that would be. 9-7 with the best def in the nfl and a playoff run? Pfffttt, who wants that stress? Not browns fans i can tell ya. We like relaxing Sundays watching hard core prison anal with maybe a win or two sprinkled in for good measure
Ask any texans fan, and I know many of them. They know what they have on D but also know they can't win it because they did not get the QB position correct. They will also tell you they fear their window of opportunity is closing because they don't have a QB and are never picking high enough to get one.
Ask any texans fan, and I know many of them. They know what they have on D but also know they can't win it because they did not get the QB position correct. They will also tell you they fear their window of opportunity is closing because they don't have a QB and are never picking high enough to get one.
And I'm sure a lot of them can remind us how bad things went when they drafted a QB first overall. In my memory, the only QB we got right in round 1 in 1985 required a supplemental draft process for carpet diem. That was 32 years ago so it's hard to feel confident especially during a year many well paid draft analysts and NFL scouts are seeing the entire QB class as a bunch of projects.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Ask any texans fan, and I know many of them. They know what they have on D but also know they can't win it because they did not get the QB position correct. They will also tell you they fear their window of opportunity is closing because they don't have a QB and are never picking high enough to get one.
And I'm sure a lot of them can remind us how bad things went when they drafted a QB first overall. In my memory, the only QB we got right in round 1 in 1985 required a supplemental draft process for carpet diem. That was 32 years ago so it's hard to feel confident especially during a year many well paid draft analysts and NFL scouts are seeing the entire QB class as a bunch of projects.
And I'm sure a lot of them can remind us how bad things went when they drafted a QB first overall. In my memory, the only QB we got right in round 1 in 1985 required a supplemental draft process for carpet diem. That was 32 years ago...
We have a backup plan though called the 12 pick
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