Quarterbacks on the Hot Seat
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Listening to some radio this morning and this subject came up: Which starting QBs for NFL teams may be on the "Hot Seat" this year....and in danger of losing their jobs. Here are some potential candidates:
Jets QB....whoever they have will be on the hot seat. Josh McCown? He certainly is.
Blake Bortles...Jags. No doubt probably the hottest of them all. Consensus is that he has underachieved for a #3 overall pick....so, he should/could likely be hearing footsteps.
Ryan Tannehill.....Dolphins....to me, it seems, he is only a few degrees behind Bortles in terms of how hot his seat is. He has been just average enough not to lose his job, but not good enough to take it by the horns to the point that his team is anything but average at best.
Andy Dalton?? Bengals. Seems to me he could have issues holding off McCarron. If things go badly for the Bengals...and I predict that they will, he could be in line to be benched.
Browns QBs. Like the Jets...the position is not stabilized...so whomever gets the start is by no means certain of getting the finish.
Mike Glennon. Bears If Bears get off to poor start...around mid season there could be clamoring to replace him with their #2 overall pick, Trubisky.
Tom Savage. Texans. I understand he is the starter...going in. But he was only a late season replacement last year....and the DATs took a QB at #10 (or was it #12?). They may see Watson as their version of Dak Prescott.
Trevor Siemian. Broncos. Can he even be said to be their starter? The have a 1st round pick in the wings.....so his hold on the starter job there is clearly tenuous.
Jared Goff. Rams. Yes, the #1 overall pick has started....but no one has praised his performances....though what have they got to go with instead? Case Keenum? Still an iffy deal.
Brian Hoyer. 49ers. While I put him in here, I probably shouldn't. He SHOULD be on the hot seat...but his backups are Matt Barkley....so that is what really makes Hoyer's position solid. They got rid of probably their best QB when Kaepernick opted out. And IMO...the 49ers are bucking hard for that #1 overall pick next year to get a new "savior" into the fold.
Anyone else?
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Tannehill just went to the playoffs.
He is probably secure at this point....but he has not been all that. It seems there have always been questions about him.
Of course, Dalton went to the playoffs 4 years in a row. Going to the playoffs does not guarantee that you are secure in your QB job.
And...Hey...Brock Osweiler went to the playoffs last year too. How secure was his job with the Texans!!
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Technically Tannehill did not go to the playoffs since he went out with a season ending injury in game 14.
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Phillip Rivers..when you got 14 children in school & a house in S.D. why d hell move to LA? By trade dead line Phillip puts his own arss on hot seat..Gip you would take Tanny in Cleveland,like tomorrow..(and he brings his wife)
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@boo-fagley said:
Alex Smith - Chiefs
The most popular person in KC is the 2nd string QB.
I wanted Mahomes in a Browns uniform. I think he could be a real good one in time.
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Phillip Rivers..when you got 14 children in school & a house in S.D. why d hell move to LA? By trade dead line Phillip puts his own arss on hot seat..Gip you would take Tanny in Cleveland,like tomorrow..(and he brings his wife)
Phillip Rivers..when you got 14 children in school & a house in S.D. why d hell move to LA? By trade dead line Phillip puts his own arss on hot seat..Gip you would take Tanny in Cleveland,like tomorrow..(and he brings his wife)
Maybe, yes.....but that is not saying that much given the state of our QBs. Though, actually, I may perhaps be just as willing to roll with what we got....all younger than Tannehill..including B.O.
(and knowing that we also have 2 first round picks next year that may come into play at QB)
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@boo-fagley said:
Alex Smith - Chiefs
The most popular person in KC is the 2nd string QB.
Smith is a pretty steady guy. And who is that 2d string QB? I mean, they picked Mahomes...is that who you mean? If Smith really fell off the rails...which I don't see happening, then there could be clamors to put the rookie in to see what he can do. But, of all the top 4 QBs drafted last year: Trubisky, Watson Kizer, Mahomes.....Mahomes seem to be the most "raw" and in need of time to develop.
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@boo-fagley said:
Sam Bradford - Vikes
I guess he is still the QB for what it cost.
I would have included him.....but since it seems clear that The Twat may not be back soon, I think Bradford is pretty secure.
And...for what its worth (if you read my trivia)....Bradford did lead the NFL in completion pct. last year. I mean, in and of itself, that's a good thing.
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@boo-fagley said:
If KC drafted him he will be a bust.
Lol, kind of agree.
You could argue KC had the worst QB drafting of ANY team since the merger.
Dawson & Montana, probably Alex Smith are their best since then, all pick ups.
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@boo-fagley said:
Alex Smith is hated in KC. The Chiefs never scored a TD vs the Steelers in the playoffs.
Both Tribinsky and Mahomes basically played the same number of games
Tribinsky 31 games 4,762 yards 41 TDs
Mahomes 32 games 11, 252 93 TDs
Tribinsky looks more unproven to me.
Mahomes started in all those game I think. Trubisky only started in 11. So Mahomes had about triple the number of starts. You did not list the attempts and completions. I suspect that would be about triple for Mahomes.
Also...the fact is...Mahomes played in that system....whatever you call it....that fast break system....that has never produced a quality NFL QB.
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@boo-fagley said:
I would say the Sam Bradford experiment has blown up in the lab.
Bridgewater showed more promise than I have ever seen out of Bradford. Did that clown Bradford ever even make the post season? Not that I recall.
Point though is: I think his job as starting QB for the Vikings is secure. Who else would they go to? Bridgewater ain't playing...and who else? They have Case Keenum. Didn't he just get cut from the Rams?
Bradford's job is safe.
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@boo-fagley said:
If KC drafted him he will be a bust.
Lol, kind of agree.
You could argue KC had the worst QB drafting of ANY team since the merger.
Dawson & Montana, probably Alex Smith are their best since then, all pick ups.
Lol, kind of agree.
You could argue KC had the worst QB drafting of ANY team since the merger.
Dawson & Montana, probably Alex Smith are their best since then, all pick ups.
Who, besides Todd Blackledge have they drafted?
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@boo-fagley said:
Absolutely. Snake bit.
KC has an infatuation for ex SF 49er QBs - Bono, DeBerg, Grbac, Smith and Montana. There may be a few more.
Well....if what you say is true...and it is....then we should expect KC to sign Kaepernick....fair to say?
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@boo-fagley said:
The Chiefs are pretty set at QB with Smith, Patrick Mahomes and Tyler Bray, but I could see Kaepernick as a fit in KC’s offense if there was a major injury on the team. Still, like Hunt said, Reid probably wouldn’t bring in Kaepernick due to the dynamic between him and Smith.
Yea, Kaepernick replaced Smith in SFO....not sure how well those 2 would play together. But..Tyler Bray...the backup behind Smith? I guess I know nothing about him....but that does not sound like they are "pretty set". The raw as hell....not ready to see the field for 2 years Mahomes behind them?
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Who, besides Todd Blackledge have they drafted?
Not entirely sure, Bill Kenny? Tyler Thigpen?
Point is they aren't good at it.
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@boo-fagley said:
Im not a fan of Mahomes or Tribinsky.
Im glad the Browns did not get caught up in the spending spree in a weak QB draft,
We shall see. For all we know, this draft could rival 1983 or 2004!!. (you never know)
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Who, besides Todd Blackledge have they drafted?
Not entirely sure, Bill Kenny? Tyler Thigpen?
Point is they aren't good at it.
Not entirely sure, Bill Kenny? Tyler Thigpen?
Point is they aren't good at it.
They drafted Kevin Hogan!!
But, here are the names of the QBs drafted by the Chiefs over the years:
Kevin Hogan
Aaron Murray
Brodie Croyle
Pat Barnes
Ricky Stanzi
Steve Stenstrom
Steve Matthews
Matt Blundin
Mike Elkins
Danny McManus
Doug Hudson
Todd Blackledge
Bob Gagliano
Steve Fuller
Pete Woods
David Jaynes
Dean Carlson
Mike Livingston
Eddie Wilson
No...not a stellar group...at all.
Blackledge had the most promise and is the biggest bust.
Steve Fuller and Mike Livingston....average QBs are the best of the bunch.
But then...look at the Browns QB drafting prowess over the years.
Nothing to write home about either.
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Hot seat for me implies an established starter with someone pushing them. Dalton fits this mold. He's established and has a backup in AJ McCarron that many are eager to see. Smith's KC situation seems like the 2nd best fit. Not too many others of those mentioned so far fit nearly as well IMO... but I have a new name I'll close with...
Placeholders aren't on a hot seat. Hoyer, Glennon and Savage are clearly placeholders. It's not a matter of "if", but "when" for them. Only difference in Hoyer's case is that his replacement arrives next season. Pretty much the same for any of the Jets QBs.
Browns differ from the Jets in that we have three contenders with more promise each than the Jets QBs have in total... unless my former darkhorse, Petty, turns it on.
No one is established, so the seat is cold.May be semantics, but I also do not think of Bortles and Tannehill as hot-seaters... more like QBs at a cross-roads. Neither has anyone pressing them.
Other young guns are still a year or so away from their crossroad. I count Goff in this group. A good 2017 will push it down the road another year; a bad one will set it in 2018.
And now the new name... Tom Brady.
- Established vet? Check... a 40-yo one to boot.
- Being pushed? Eh... going into the season more like shadowed, but when Jimmy G was not traded, the shadow grew longer.
I don't expect Tom to falter, but should he, or get injured, then the least sentimental HC in the NFL will see his 2018 UFA backup in action and all bets are off...
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