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  • U Unsympathetic

    PFF summary isn't all bad

    1) Shon Coleman graded out as our #1 player, shutting down Dunlap.

    2) Ogbah does know what it's like to do more than wear the jersey.. 1 sack, 1 hurry, 3 run stops.

    3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

    4) JT leads the NFL in passpro % at tackle, giving up 3 sacks in 68 attempts.

    5) Ogunjobi was overall the #5 Brown and is the 10th rated run stop DT in all the league.

    Consider this stat as the one to use when comparing WR's.. complex but at least it's consistent.

    6) Zane Gonzalez leads the league in lowest % of kickoffs returned.. 2 after safeties and one after a Coleman TD where he pooched it.

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    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @unsympathetic said:

    PFF summary isn't all bad

    1) Shon Coleman graded out as our #1 player, shutting down Dunlap.

    2) Ogbah does know what it's like to do more than wear the jersey.. 1 sack, 1 hurry, 3 run stops.

    3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

    4) JT leads the NFL in passpro % at tackle, giving up 3 sacks in 68 attempts.

    5) Ogunjobi was overall the #5 Brown and is the 10th rated run stop DT in all the league.

    Consider this stat as the one to use when comparing WR's.. complex but at least it's consistent.

    6) Zane Gonzalez leads the league in lowest % of kickoffs returned.. 2 after safeties and one after a Coleman TD where he pooched it.

    Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

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      @unsympathetic said:

      PFF summary isn't all bad

      1) Shon Coleman graded out as our #1 player, shutting down Dunlap.

      2) Ogbah does know what it's like to do more than wear the jersey.. 1 sack, 1 hurry, 3 run stops.

      3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

      4) JT leads the NFL in passpro % at tackle, giving up 3 sacks in 68 attempts.

      5) Ogunjobi was overall the #5 Brown and is the 10th rated run stop DT in all the league.

      Consider this stat as the one to use when comparing WR's.. complex but at least it's consistent.

      6) Zane Gonzalez leads the league in lowest % of kickoffs returned.. 2 after safeties and one after a Coleman TD where he pooched it.

      Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

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      GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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      @hoorta said:

      Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

      But Larry................. you said the Bengals suck? You said that their OL would cause the offense to sputter. You said the Browns new OL was going to make the offense potent. You said Hue Jackson will not be in the hot seat and that he is a really good coach. You said Greg Williams defense woudl be thunderous.

      Phhhhhhhhht to yohur OL cowpoop. Fatasses, every last one of them.

      The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        The bengals were a mediocre team? Uhhh no......they suck. The ravens and steelers are mediocre. The bengals are shiite.....i really thought it would be a close game even if the bengals won. I thought perhaps the jets and chargers would be winnable games, they're not. I watched rivers today torch the eagles secondary on some deep balls and im like nope, rivers is gonna murder us. They wont be the browns lone win this year. Jets i dont know much about but im gonna say we lose next week too if the bengals dropped 31 on us.

        seasons over. The only thing thats gonna piss me off about this season is if they retain most of these players. The rookies, fine...ofc they get another year. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th year guys that ate just plodding mediocrity.....house got to be cleared at the end of the year. They dont do that, i wont watch next year. If nassib, orchard and ogbah...just as one example....if they're all still on the team next year im not watching if by years end their play is exactly as it is now. Shelton, meder...same. 

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        • U Unsympathetic

          PFF summary isn't all bad

          1) Shon Coleman graded out as our #1 player, shutting down Dunlap.

          2) Ogbah does know what it's like to do more than wear the jersey.. 1 sack, 1 hurry, 3 run stops.

          3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

          4) JT leads the NFL in passpro % at tackle, giving up 3 sacks in 68 attempts.

          5) Ogunjobi was overall the #5 Brown and is the 10th rated run stop DT in all the league.

          Consider this stat as the one to use when comparing WR's.. complex but at least it's consistent.

          6) Zane Gonzalez leads the league in lowest % of kickoffs returned.. 2 after safeties and one after a Coleman TD where he pooched it.

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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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          @unsympathetic said:

          3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

          Actually we have two SSs and no FS, but the other one plays CF.

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            flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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            The picture I have... Bright blue sky.  Bright orange empty seats. 

             Yep, Bright Spots!

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              @unsympathetic said:

              PFF summary isn't all bad

              1) Shon Coleman graded out as our #1 player, shutting down Dunlap.

              2) Ogbah does know what it's like to do more than wear the jersey.. 1 sack, 1 hurry, 3 run stops.

              3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

              4) JT leads the NFL in passpro % at tackle, giving up 3 sacks in 68 attempts.

              5) Ogunjobi was overall the #5 Brown and is the 10th rated run stop DT in all the league.

              Consider this stat as the one to use when comparing WR's.. complex but at least it's consistent.

              6) Zane Gonzalez leads the league in lowest % of kickoffs returned.. 2 after safeties and one after a Coleman TD where he pooched it.

              Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              @hoorta said:

              Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

              It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @hoorta said:

                Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

                It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                @ballpeen said:

                It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

                It was positively putrid Russ. Horrible bad. 

                Hmmmm just maybe I'll head up again- wasn't planning on it though. 

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                  I dont care what off says....did coleman really stop dunlap? I didnt see the fame but if he did, ill holler at my boy

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                  So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Fuckin' nanny state website...

                  @clevfan4life said:

                  I dont care what off says....did coleman really stop dunlap? I didnt see the fame but if he did, ill holler at my boy

                  You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                  Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                  And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

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                    So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Fuckin' nanny state website...

                    @clevfan4life said:

                    I dont care what off says....did coleman really stop dunlap? I didnt see the fame but if he did, ill holler at my boy

                    You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                    Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                    And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

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                    U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either?

                    We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

                    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                      @hoorta said:

                      Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

                      It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

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                      ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                      @ballpeen said:

                      It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

                      Hey Russ, it would be good to see ya while you're in town. Drop me a note where you'll be.

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either?

                        We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

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                        ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                        @unsympathetic said:

                        We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

                        Haha, give this guy an emoji award or something! 😁

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                          U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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                          Feature article at PFF on Shon Coleman

                          The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                            So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Fuckin' nanny state website...

                            @clevfan4life said:

                            I dont care what off says....did coleman really stop dunlap? I didnt see the fame but if he did, ill holler at my boy

                            You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                            Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                            And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

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                            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                            @tour2ma said:

                            So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Shmuckin' nanny state website...

                            You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                            Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                            And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

                            Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Shmuckin' nanny state website...

                              You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                              Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                              And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

                              Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

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                              @hoorta said:

                              Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

                              And when that clock ran out I was wondering why we didn't throw the red flag. Did we have one left to throw? And what was the official doing that is in charge of watching for that? League should fine him.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Shmuckin' nanny state website...

                                You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                                Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                                And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

                                Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @hoorta said:

                                ... they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

                                Had forgotten about that... and the snap wasn't even close unless you count two-second late as close.

                                @unsympathetic said:

                                Feature article at PFF on Shon Coleman

                                • Offensive tackle Shon Coleman was one of the few bright spots Sunday in the Cleveland Browns 31-7 loss against the Cincinnati Bengals. He finished the game with an overall grade of 86.3, the highest grade among all Browns’ players and the third-highest among all tackles in Week 4.
                                • With a tough matchup against the 29th-rated edge defender Carlos Dunlap, Coleman held his own, allowing three total pressures (all hurries) on 47 pass snaps. He has not allowed a sack since Week 1.
                                • Continually showing improvement, Coleman currently grades 18th among 68 qualifying tackles, with an overall grade of 76.4. His run-block grade of 81.5 currently ranks 18th as well.

                                I am feeling a father's pride...

                                If anyone still has full PFF access, I'd appreciate a note on where Schwartz lines up in the 68. I know last year he posted an 80.9 grade for the season.

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                                  shitShmuck 

                                  edit: this sucks

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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Shmuckin' nanny state website...

                                    You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

                                    Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

                                    And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

                                    Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @hoorta said:

                                    Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain.  🙁

                                    right on H, The women ref that blew the Skins Duke fumble blew this call by being out of position..Doubt 21-7 would have made any difference. but even with the whistle being blown..The possible TD return was dead due to whistle?..Now that pylon cam is possible, I got no clue why the down marker stick does not have a camera for LOS plays..The word "conclusive" in the rule book..Forgot the **'s with conclusive camera angle only..or it has no chance  

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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either?

                                      We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

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                                      @unsympathetic said:

                                      We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

                                      Zombow wants to ban the word pee pee

                                      The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        ... they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

                                        Had forgotten about that... and the snap wasn't even close unless you count two-second late as close.

                                        @unsympathetic said:

                                        Feature article at PFF on Shon Coleman

                                        • Offensive tackle Shon Coleman was one of the few bright spots Sunday in the Cleveland Browns 31-7 loss against the Cincinnati Bengals. He finished the game with an overall grade of 86.3, the highest grade among all Browns’ players and the third-highest among all tackles in Week 4.
                                        • With a tough matchup against the 29th-rated edge defender Carlos Dunlap, Coleman held his own, allowing three total pressures (all hurries) on 47 pass snaps. He has not allowed a sack since Week 1.
                                        • Continually showing improvement, Coleman currently grades 18th among 68 qualifying tackles, with an overall grade of 76.4. His run-block grade of 81.5 currently ranks 18th as well.

                                        I am feeling a father's pride...

                                        If anyone still has full PFF access, I'd appreciate a note on where Schwartz lines up in the 68. I know last year he posted an 80.9 grade for the season.

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Had forgotten about that... and the snap wasn't even close unless you count two-second late as close.

                                        • Offensive tackle Shon Coleman was one of the few bright spots Sunday in the Cleveland Browns 31-7 loss against the Cincinnati Bengals. He finished the game with an overall grade of 86.3, the highest grade among all Browns’ players and the third-highest among all tackles in Week 4.
                                        • With a tough matchup against the 29th-rated edge defender Carlos Dunlap, Coleman held his own, allowing three total pressures (all hurries) on 47 pass snaps. He has not allowed a sack since Week 1.
                                        • Continually showing improvement, Coleman currently grades 18th among 68 qualifying tackles, with an overall grade of 76.4. His run-block grade of 81.5 currently ranks 18th as well.

                                        I am feeling a father's pride...

                                        If anyone still has full PFF access, I'd appreciate a note on where Schwartz lines up in the 68. I know last year he posted an 80.9 grade for the season.

                                        Schwartz is down at #43. Grade of 53.4 on the year. 

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                                          Mack, however, is back at the top of the center rankings. Highest grade of all OL. 

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