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  • Hogan injured his ribs, threw pitifully after that. Need a couple top wr's in the draft. The so cal qb doesn't impress me,

    and I wouldn't draft the other stooge either. Too bad for Hogan , he went against a killer defense, even without Watt.

    Defense needs a shutdown corner or two.... I think I'll do a mock draft after this game.

  • But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

    @hoorta said:

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

    Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

    Time. 

    And a legit WR1 and FS.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

    @hoorta said:

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

    The new uniforms suck too. You forgot to mention that. 😆

  • Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

  • Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

    @poeticg said:

    Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

    Excuses, excuses, excuses.

    Just like I knew you'd do.

  • @hoorta said:

    So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

    Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

    Time. 

    And a legit WR1 and FS.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

    Time. 

    And a legit WR1 and FS.

    Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

  • The young WRs in the game today... All of them actually, struggled. 

    Njoku, DeValve, Williams, Higgins, Treggs, Ricardo- all young players trying to sync... makes it hard. 

    Hogan will be much better next week vs the Titans. 

  • Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

    @poeticg said:

    Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

    Fuk that dude. 3 int's in one half that were ALL on him. That ball he airmailed over duke i wanted to shove it up his a ss. The one and only thing you absolutely cannot do on that pass is overthrow because the over routes mean theres sideline leverage by the defense. Oh my Shmucking god throw the Shmucking ball low. Even a tip in that circumstance is almost a guaranteed pick. The dudes arm is just shiite. He has to put air under it just to get it out to the sidelines.

    Thats Sheet. Those kinds of arms shouldnt even be in the nfl. They beed to ask these kids in college, hows ur leg? Play soccer at all when u were a kid? Here try this. If u dont have a min strength arm dont Shmucking play qb so that one day a professional fan base has pucker their assholes while holding a stopwatch  everytime u throw out into the flat.

  • You are having a bad day, clearly, but relax a little, Hogan isn't as bad as you think he is. 

    He is better than Kizer. Kevin Hogan struggled today because of penalties, no calls, young WRs and bad play calling.

    Hogan's "3" INTs...

    1 came at the half, no points. 

    The pick 6 looked like Duke should have continued his route to the outside, he slows and turns because he open but the pass was supposed to be further out to the first down. Duke jumped a little early as well. Actually the pass looked like it could have been deflected outside, wide of Duke... hmm. Never want those to happen but like I said, Watson had one of those today as well. Shon Coleman got man handled as well on the play...

    The other INT came on the sidelines on a deepball, that is on the WR, the WR let the Corner pin him to the sidelines and just take the ball. The WR was actually Duke Johnson.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

    Time. 

    And a legit WR1 and FS.

    Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

    @hoorta said:

    Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

    Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan will be much better next week vs the Titans. 

     I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

  • Where's Spergon Wynn when you need him? 

  • Just stop PoG, you're embarrassing yourself.

    We all watched the game.

  • @hoorta said:

    Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

    Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan will be much better next week vs the Titans. 

     I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

     I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

    Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

    + This isn't a rookie defense. 

  • I can't believe Hue let him play the 2nd half. 

    Any pass over 10 yards the defense could set a tent up under it.

    Arm is weaker than Brian Hoyer's. 

    Might even have played himself out of the backup role today. 

  • What did I say that you don't agree with? 

    Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

    The Defense let Watson toast them? 

    The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

    They won, no excuses about that from me. 

    Credit to Houston.

    On to the next one. 

    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

  • What did I say that you don't agree with? 

    Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

    The Defense let Watson toast them? 

    The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

    They won, no excuses about that from me. 

    Credit to Houston.

    On to the next one. 

    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

    @poeticg said:

    On to the next one. 

    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

    What is the question?

    What backup QB showed no arm strength and even less accuracy vs the Houston Texans on October 15th, 2017 for the Cleveland Browns?

  • What did I say that you don't agree with? 

    Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

    The Defense let Watson toast them? 

    The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

    They won, no excuses about that from me. 

    Credit to Houston.

    On to the next one. 

    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

    Ya.... your seriously reaching man.

    The guy has no arm. The only thing you could say about him before was he put the ball where it needed to be....today in the starting role he Sheet his pants and let more than 10 balls sail WAY over there target.

    His throws were so bad, on the Pass Interferance call at the end of the game they had to pick the flag up because he threw the ball so far over the WR's head they called it uncatchable... 

    nevermind.... I just read the post that you blamed Duke for the pick 6. I'll just move on with my life. Carry on.

  • Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?

    I just told you that the WRs were responsible for some of the issues. 

    Is Kevin Hogan perfect? Not at all. He's got a lot of room to grow, it's his first game. 

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

     I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

    Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

    + This isn't a rookie defense. 

    @hoorta said:

    Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

    + This isn't a rookie defense. 

    There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.

     Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?

    That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.