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Ok are we done with hogan now?

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @poeticg said:

    Kizer got tons of work with the 1's. Got 5 games of starter reps. 

    Hogan has had 3 days. 

    Give Hogan a little time to work on the timing and what the WRs need to look for when they are playing for him.

    Fuk that dude. 3 int's in one half that were ALL on him. That ball he airmailed over duke i wanted to shove it up his a ss. The one and only thing you absolutely cannot do on that pass is overthrow because the over routes mean theres sideline leverage by the defense. Oh my Shmucking god throw the Shmucking ball low. Even a tip in that circumstance is almost a guaranteed pick. The dudes arm is just shiite. He has to put air under it just to get it out to the sidelines.

    Thats Sheet. Those kinds of arms shouldnt even be in the nfl. They beed to ask these kids in college, hows ur leg? Play soccer at all when u were a kid? Here try this. If u dont have a min strength arm dont Shmucking play qb so that one day a professional fan base has pucker their assholes while holding a stopwatch  everytime u throw out into the flat.

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      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG
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      You are having a bad day, clearly, but relax a little, Hogan isn't as bad as you think he is. 

      He is better than Kizer. Kevin Hogan struggled today because of penalties, no calls, young WRs and bad play calling.

      Hogan's "3" INTs...

      1 came at the half, no points. 

      The pick 6 looked like Duke should have continued his route to the outside, he slows and turns because he open but the pass was supposed to be further out to the first down. Duke jumped a little early as well. Actually the pass looked like it could have been deflected outside, wide of Duke... hmm. Never want those to happen but like I said, Watson had one of those today as well. Shon Coleman got man handled as well on the play...

      The other INT came on the sidelines on a deepball, that is on the WR, the WR let the Corner pin him to the sidelines and just take the ball. The WR was actually Duke Johnson.

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        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

        Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

        Time. 

        And a legit WR1 and FS.

        Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        @hoorta said:

        Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

        Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

        @poeticg said:

        Hogan will be much better next week vs the Titans. 

         I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

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          D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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          Where's Spergon Wynn when you need him? 

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            Just stop PoG, you're embarrassing yourself.

            We all watched the game.

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              @hoorta said:

              Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

              Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

              @poeticg said:

              Hogan will be much better next week vs the Titans. 

               I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

              Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

               I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

              Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

              + This isn't a rookie defense. 

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                hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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                I can't believe Hue let him play the 2nd half. 

                Any pass over 10 yards the defense could set a tent up under it.

                Arm is weaker than Brian Hoyer's. 

                Might even have played himself out of the backup role today. 

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                  PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                  What did I say that you don't agree with? 

                  Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

                  The Defense let Watson toast them? 

                  The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

                  They won, no excuses about that from me. 

                  Credit to Houston.

                  On to the next one. 

                  Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

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                  • PoeticGP PoeticG

                    What did I say that you don't agree with? 

                    Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

                    The Defense let Watson toast them? 

                    The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

                    They won, no excuses about that from me. 

                    Credit to Houston.

                    On to the next one. 

                    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                    @poeticg said:

                    On to the next one. 

                    Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

                    What is the question?

                    What backup QB showed no arm strength and even less accuracy vs the Houston Texans on October 15th, 2017 for the Cleveland Browns?

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                    • PoeticGP PoeticG

                      What did I say that you don't agree with? 

                      Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?

                      The Defense let Watson toast them? 

                      The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.

                      They won, no excuses about that from me. 

                      Credit to Houston.

                      On to the next one. 

                      Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

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                      hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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                      @poeticg said:

                      Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.

                      Ya.... your seriously reaching man.

                      The guy has no arm. The only thing you could say about him before was he put the ball where it needed to be....today in the starting role he Sheet his pants and let more than 10 balls sail WAY over there target.

                      His throws were so bad, on the Pass Interferance call at the end of the game they had to pick the flag up because he threw the ball so far over the WR's head they called it uncatchable... 

                      nevermind.... I just read the post that you blamed Duke for the pick 6. I'll just move on with my life. Carry on.

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                        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                        Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?

                        I just told you that the WRs were responsible for some of the issues. 

                        Is Kevin Hogan perfect? Not at all. He's got a lot of room to grow, it's his first game. 

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                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                          Yes it was, because we are a bad young team. That’s what happens to bad young teams, regardless of who’s at QB.

                           I’m sure he’ll be just fine on the bench next week.

                          Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

                          + This isn't a rookie defense. 

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                          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                          @hoorta said:

                          Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

                          + This isn't a rookie defense. 

                          There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.

                           Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?

                          That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.

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                            Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?

                            I just told you that the WRs were responsible for some of the issues. 

                            Is Kevin Hogan perfect? Not at all. He's got a lot of room to grow, it's his first game. 

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                            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                            @poeticg said:

                            Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?

                            I just told you that the WRs were responsible for some of the issues. 

                            Is Kevin Hogan perfect? Not at all. He's got a lot of room to grow, it's his first game. 

                            And his last one. The dude is awful.

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                              Seriously- Kap would be light years better than any QB on this trainwreck of a team. It's a disgrace to have an NFL team roster with ZERO QB WINS COMBINED. 

                              I only wished watson would've had 4-5 TD passes. he's more valuable than Peppers, Njoku and Kizer combined. 

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                                And yeah, I want Wentz and Watson to light it up every single week, so our dipshit office can see how bad they messed up two drafts in a row. 

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                                  Hogan injured his ribs, threw pitifully after that. Need a couple top wr's in the draft. The so cal qb doesn't impress me,

                                  and I wouldn't draft the other stooge either. Too bad for Hogan , he went against a killer defense, even without Watt.

                                  Defense needs a shutdown corner or two.... I think I'll do a mock draft after this game.

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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  Hogan injured his ribs, threw pitifully after that. Need a couple top wr's in the draft. The so cal qb doesn't impress me,

                                  and I wouldn't draft the other stooge either. Too bad for Hogan , he went against a killer defense, even without Watt.

                                  Defense needs a shutdown corner or two.... I think I'll do a mock draft after this game.

                                  Our so-called QB's... that's been the case for 18 years now, don't know if to laugh or cry.

                                  @hoorta said:

                                  So give me your analysis what we need to be a "good" team? Kizer sucks, Hogan sucks, Hue sucks, Sashi sucks. Have I covered the bases?

                                  You forgot Jimmy and mrs Jimmy.

                                  @hoorta said:

                                  Hahahaha. You're dreaming TC. Out played after 15 minutes AGAIN  I don't care if Tom Brady was qbing  the Browns. That was another ugly blowout.

                                  Bring in Tom Brady, or Matt Ryan or whoever and we still won't win because though QB is a big issue and has been for 18 years, it isn't our only deficiency...

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                                    Sorry, but Hogan would have been better with no prep. Nobody has a clue what they are supposed to do. Coming off the bench at halftime, just leads toward reaction by both the QB and pass catcher. Watson was pretty meh as well. BoB called screen after screen. Every vertical pass down the middle of the field, he struggled with.

                                    Brady would not play for Hue Jackson. He should be fired.

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                      Bad young teams  don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.

                                      + This isn't a rookie defense. 

                                      There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.

                                       Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?

                                      That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.

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                                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                      There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.

                                       Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?

                                      That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.

                                      Obviously 2nd year players don't count

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                                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                        Hogan sucked but I don't think starting him was the wrong call. Kizer hasn't done better 

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                                          Where's Spergon Wynn when you need him? 

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                                          @d-bone said:

                                          Where's Spergon Wynn when you need him? 

                                          I want Tim Couch back.

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