Ok are we done with hogan now?
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No. No. No. No
There are MUCH better trans around those QBs. If you think they'd be doing the same thing on our team you're a Shmucking idiot.
"No no no!" is what we all thought when we passed on watson to go down and get Peppers instead.
Buckeyes and wolverines aside... Keep dreaming that he's a major impact player.
He's been crap, whether he's been used incorrectly, or whether he's just not nfl caliber, he's looked completely lost out there
"No no no!" is what we all thought when we passed on watson to go down and get Peppers instead.
Buckeyes and wolverines aside... Keep dreaming that he's a major impact player.
He's been crap, whether he's been used incorrectly, or whether he's just not nfl caliber, he's looked completely lost out there
Nothing in my post had to do with Peppers. And yet I'm sure I will be blamed for bringing him up for some reason. I won't even get into why I think you're wrong.
You quoting me to get completely off topic was bad enough.
I'll take you not responding to what I said in any way as a sign you agree. Good. Then these "But but but Watson and Wentz!!!" posts don't mean much. They're on much better offenses.
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Peppers was not worth a 1st round pick. Only the idiot front office here would trade down. Pass on Watson and then draft Peppers.
he would have been there in round 2 or maybe even the 3rd round
We have all seen that he is terrible in coverage. 1st rounders can’t just be a kick returner. Which in the NFL today are almost useless
another wasted 1st round pick
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Peppers was not worth a 1st round pick. Only the idiot front office here would trade down. Pass on Watson and then draft Peppers.
he would have been there in round 2 or maybe even the 3rd round
We have all seen that he is terrible in coverage. 1st rounders can’t just be a kick returner. Which in the NFL today are almost useless
another wasted 1st round pick
Peppers was not worth a 1st round pick. Only the idiot front office here would trade down. Pass on Watson and then draft Peppers.
he would have been there in round 2 or maybe even the 3rd round
We have all seen that he is terrible in coverage. 1st rounders can’t just be a kick returner. Which in the NFL today are almost useless
another wasted 1st round pick
I disagree.
Talk was the Steelers wanted him near the end of the 1st
He very clearly would have been gone by the 3rd. I know you're incredibly biased, but don't let that cause you to say incredibly stupid things. Though that is hard for you.
Amazing that he's have rookie mistakes at a position he's never really had to play, huh? I bet he's the only rookie in the NFL making mistakes right now. What a waste of a 1st round pick...
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Peppers was not worth a 1st round pick. Only the idiot front office here would trade down. Pass on Watson and then draft Peppers.
he would have been there in round 2 or maybe even the 3rd round
We have all seen that he is terrible in coverage. 1st rounders can’t just be a kick returner. Which in the NFL today are almost useless
another wasted 1st round pick
I disagree.
Talk was the Steelers wanted him near the end of the 1st
He very clearly would have been gone by the 3rd. I know you're incredibly biased, but don't let that cause you to say incredibly stupid things. Though that is hard for you.
Amazing that he's have rookie mistakes at a position he's never really had to play, huh? I bet he's the only rookie in the NFL making mistakes right now. What a waste of a 1st round pick...
I disagree.
Talk was the Steelers wanted him near the end of the 1st
He very clearly would have been gone by the 3rd. I know you're incredibly biased, but don't let that cause you to say incredibly stupid things. Though that is hard for you.
Amazing that he's have rookie mistakes at a position he's never really had to play, huh? I bet he's the only rookie in the NFL making mistakes right now. What a waste of a 1st round pick...
Rookies aren’t allowed to make mistakes.
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Peppers took a TD saving angle on that texans wr. Not saying peppers all of a sudden became our best player im just saying, the kids improving.
You're crazy. He's awful. The worst player on the team. Just like how he constantly made mistakes against THE Ohio State University. No I'm not being biased just because he went to shitty Meatchicken
.... Too on the nose?
You're crazy. He's awful. The worst player on the team. Just like how he constantly made mistakes against THE Ohio State University. No I'm not being biased just because he went to shitty Meatchicken
.... Too on the nose?
Lols
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Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
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Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
A lot of people find your schtick to be cute but I am seriously wondering if you have legitimate issues.
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"Duke was responsible for the INT down the sidelines"
Bahaha. Come on now. Try not to be that big of an idiot. That was all on Hogan. Throw was way too high.
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Peppers took a TD saving angle on that texans wr. Not saying peppers all of a sudden became our best player im just saying, the kids improving.
You're crazy. He's awful. The worst player on the team. Just like how he constantly made mistakes against THE Ohio State University. No I'm not being biased just because he went to shitty Meatchicken
.... Too on the nose?
You're crazy. He's awful. The worst player on the team. Just like how he constantly made mistakes against THE Ohio State University. No I'm not being biased just because he went to shitty Meatchicken
.... Too on the nose?
He's from New Jersey. He was kind of an odd player but supposedly very athletic and versatile. That might not Translate into a pro career but we can hope. Still I always expect first round picks to kick butt. Patience.
WSS
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"Duke was responsible for the INT down the sidelines"
Bahaha. Come on now. Try not to be that big of an idiot. That was all on Hogan. Throw was way too high.
"Duke was responsible for the INT down the sidelines"
Bahaha. Come on now. Try not to be that big of an idiot. That was all on Hogan. Throw was way too high.
I think he was talking about the deep throw to duke. I know, there were so many int's its hard to keep track of em all. I cant really see how even that throw to duke was his fault tho. The ball just wasnt thrown ahead of the receiver.
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I mean, you're throwing a deep ball to a tiny HB. He's boxing out anyone for that. He better have the defender beat and you need to throw it in stride.
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Dude has no arm talent. He's putting air under the ball constantly because he has no ability to drive the football. He sucks. If im gonna watch 3 int's in one half id rather watch kizer maje em so we KNOW we have to draft a QB #1
Dude has no arm talent. He's putting air under the ball constantly because he has no ability to drive the football. He sucks. If im gonna watch 3 int's in one half id rather watch kizer maje em so we KNOW we have to draft a QB #1
Gee... if only someone had seen this coming...

your just figuring this out now...pfffft...i told everyone on this board that analytics won't work. Again, this is a stinkshit organization...
Are you as premature in bed as you are here?
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Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?
I just told you that the WRs were responsible for some of the issues.
Is Kevin Hogan perfect? Not at all. He's got a lot of room to grow, it's his first game.
Arm strength? What are you talking about? Less accuracy? Again, what are you talking about?
Talking about the game... talking about seeing Hogan throw change-ups all day... talking about throwing balls 5-yds OB when a WR is 5-yd clear of the Defense.
There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
Add that both Kirk and Danny are playing different positions than in past seasons.
Hogan sucked but I don't think starting him was the wrong call. Kizer hasn't done better
I can accept this... plus it should shut up 90% of the 92%, a/k/a the Hogan Hopeful not named PoG...
Now it's simply a matter of seeing which QB prospect is worthy of a time investment.
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I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..
I understand they're two gapping him, and our run defense is actually pretty good up the middle and to the right side, opposite ogbah. So danny isnt worthless, but at the same time on passing downs....where is the collapse of the pocket? Wheres the push up the middle?
Watching the game im like who the Shmuck is this watkins nigga? Dude was just ripping under the guard and/or center all game long. Apparently our o line has no answer for that move
I understand they're two gapping him, and our run defense is actually pretty good up the middle and to the right side, opposite ogbah. So danny isnt worthless, but at the same time on passing downs....where is the collapse of the pocket? Wheres the push up the middle?
Watching the game im like who the Shmuck is this watkins nigga? Dude was just ripping under the guard and/or center all game long. Apparently our o line has no answer for that move
Notice Chicago and Trubisky won. Also notice how trubisky threw very little, but they ran it a ton. Helped manage the game for them.
Hue would run it 10-12 times, and have him throw it 40 - 50 times instead, and that's one of many reasons why we suck
Your one comment with which I agree... Hue seemed to give up on the run extra early today.... like when HOU went up 10-7.
Everything else you post seems to be typical fan 20/20 hindsight bolstered by massive projections based upon little or no data.
If folks want to tout their "I told ya so's"... then show us WTF you told us so. The site has a pretty good search tool... use it.
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I'm not hopeful for Peppers at all unfortunately. Not as an NFL safety. Yeah, I hate Michigan, but if he was Taco Charlton or Jourdan Lewis, we'd all be way happier right now.
There are several articles just like this one outlining why he's not made for the NFL. And all the concerns most analysts had are proving 100% correct so far.
Hope he winds up ok, but they probably just drafted a 1st rd special teamer with that trade down instead of the QB we needed.
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I think with Kessler and Kizer Hues comments are him toeing the company line.
And I do not...
I offer you a stalemate.
Rookies aren’t allowed to make mistakes.
They are of course, but it helps if they also make plays.
I'm perfectly willing to write Peppers lack of contribution to his being played out of position, but I can't think of a single time he challenged a reception in six games.
The arc on some of Hogan's throws would've made a beautiful rainbow had there of been a trail.
... and those were the short throws... #RimShot...
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Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Sometimes when you don't know where to begin a reply.... it's best to just skip it altogether.
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I suppose l'm in the minority on this but l actually thought Hogan showed more arm than l thought he had, meaning he threw some passes that travelled a fair distance before hitting the ground or the loving caress of a defensive back.
Not that the results were good or anything, but as far as point A to point B, there was more distance between those points than l thought he was capable of.
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