Should we draft a quarterback 1st overall?
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with all the great talent in this next qb class, if Lee is in the 2018 draft - my two picks for the Browns
are Allen and Lee. Argue stats forever, but stats don't make the case entirely at all.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
https://www.thephinsider.com/2017/9/6/16258338/josh-allen-has-the-strongest-arm-in-college-football
"His mechanics are clean and polished, and arm strength will never be a problem for him in the NFL. There isn’t a long-distance throw that he can’t make, nor a part of the field that he can’t attack. He throws on the run at an elite level, and his release is quick enough to squeeze it into tight windows during broken plays. "
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Like all college players, there are things that Rosen can improve on. For one, he could stand to get better with the consistency of his accuracy. There are times when Rosen gets into stretches where his accuracy is off and he can miss some throws he should complete. Rosen needs to get faster and speed up the process to scan through his progressions, too. In the pros, he is going to need to move his eyes more and not lock onto his primary read or one of the side of the field so much. The junior also needs to stay healthy in 2017 to avoid having serious durability concerns about him for the NFL.
One of the big problems for Rosen entering his junior year is that he has developed a reputation for having poor intangibles as a bad teammate and leader. Football is an emotional game, and NFL teams want their quarterbacks to be positive team leaders. Whether it is a vocal leader or a quiet lead-by-example type, NFL evaluators and coaches want the quarterback to be a player who teammates gravitate toward with the ability to lead his team in crunch time. Rosen is said to be disliked in the Bruins' locker room, and it sounds like he needs a personality make-over. A scout who has done advance work on the 2018 NFL Draft had this to say about Rosen:
- "Right now I have them rated [Sam] Darnold, [Josh] Allen, [Lamar] Jackson, and then Rosen....Rosen has huge talent and lacks intangibles. He is a prototypical pocket guy. I love his talent, but his own teammates don't like him. Being a prick is one thing, but there aren't many quarterbacks who stick around long-term and are successful that couldn't get along well with their teammates."
Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018jrosen.php#brkX4pbwO0R7jh1X.99 -
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
https://www.thephinsider.com/2017/9/6/16258338/josh-allen-has-the-strongest-arm-in-college-football
"His mechanics are clean and polished, and arm strength will never be a problem for him in the NFL. There isn’t a long-distance throw that he can’t make, nor a part of the field that he can’t attack. He throws on the run at an elite level, and his release is quick enough to squeeze it into tight windows during broken plays. "
https://www.thephinsider.com/2017/9/6/16258338/josh-allen-has-the-strongest-arm-in-college-football
"His mechanics are clean and polished, and arm strength will never be a problem for him in the NFL. There isn’t a long-distance throw that he can’t make, nor a part of the field that he can’t attack. He throws on the run at an elite level, and his release is quick enough to squeeze it into tight windows during broken plays. "
He's got a very strong arm.
His footwork is atrocious. He throws off his back foot on the regular.
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Browns' long-term solution? How about Kirk Cousins and Saquon Barkley
BEREA, Ohio -- There are days when the Cleveland Browns seem light years from being competitive.
As ridiculous as it sounds, though, there is a way to look at the Browns as one offseason away. Yes, that's a tired old refrain in Cleveland, where the football team has been one offseason away for ... oh ... 18 years.
But this offseason, the Browns actually are positioned for dramatic work -- if they want to do it, and have the gumption to do it. They even could do it if the owner wants to retain the same front office and coaching staff -- if they are willing to make a tectonic shift in how players are evaluated.
The Browns at present have $61 million in salary-cap space and are projected to top $100 million in cap space for 2018, according to overthecap.com.
That number will shrink, dramatically, but even if it shrinks by only half, the Browns will have a lot of room to work with in free agency.
Their needs are evident: Another quarterback, another running back to replace Isaiah Crowell, who appears headed to free agency, another receiver (or two), a cornerback and a safety.
Five picks in the first two rounds of the draft will address some of those needs.
But free agency can as well.
Here's how:
1) Sign Kirk Cousins, quarterback from the Washington Redskins.
There are concerns about this. Cousins will demand the kind of money that will make the Terminal Tower tilt. And he'd get it from the Browns. Given the state of the team, the Browns can't afford to skimp.
Cousins also might not make free agency. The Redskins may make him their franchise player, again. Cousins also is seeking an organization he can believe in, where he can win without drama. That doesn't seem to fit Cleveland.
The solution?
Money. It talks, and everything else walks in these situations. Players over and over say this and that about free agency, but as a veteran coach once said, "It's always about the money." The Browns showed that last offseason when they spent freely. This offseason, they are positioned to spend enormous amounts of money on a player like Cousins. If he gets to free agency and the possibility exists he'd consider the Browns, then the Browns need to do it. The team is in that state. They simply need to do it.
Why Cousins?
Needed credibility. He has played, he has played well, he has won, and he has been in playoff games. He's second in the league this season in passing yards with 3,038, and he has 19 touchdowns and six interceptions. His rating of 101.1 is seventh. In terms of Total QBR, he's eighth, between Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
In his career, he has completed 65.9 percent of his throws, has 91 touchdowns to 48 interceptions and a rating of 95.1.
He's not Tom Brady. He's not Drew Brees. He may not even be Jared Goff. But he's the best option the Browns have heading into this offseason.
What does this say about DeShone Kizer? Nothing. Kizer is improving. If he's good enough and up to the competition, he'll keep the job.
2) Draft Saquon Barkley, Penn State running back.Isaiah Crowell is more or less gone, though lately with more opportunities, he has been showing the skills he displayed a year ago. If Crowell leaves, the Browns could add a dynamic back in Barkley.
His evaluations will fluctuate as the draft approaches, but the decreased importance of the running back in today's era is silly. Leonard Fournette has helped the Jaguars. Todd Gurley looks good with the Rams. Barkley runs hard, is quick and can catch the ball too. He has averaged more than 5 yards per carry three years in a row.
3) Light a lot of candles that Josh Gordon really is back for good.
Gordon has climbed a mountain to get to this point. His daily struggle now begins. If he's back whole and healthy and even 75 percent of what he was, the Browns have their No. 1 receiver. Time will answer whether he is.
4) Re-sign Terrelle Pryor.
Pryor made a mistake leaving the Browns, a place where he had a spot and was comfortable and where he had a good relationship with the coach. Assuming Hue Jackson is back, Pryor would be more productive in Cleveland than in D.C.
Pryor and Cousins may not have had great success this season, but the two will have a year's experience together, and Pryor is familiar with the Browns' system. The combination of Pryor and Gordon with perhaps Corey Coleman or a drafted player (Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton) in the slot (yes, the slot for Coleman) and David Njoku at tight end ... suddenly the Browns seem to have something in the passing game.
5) Draft the right guys.
Get a cornerback. Get a safety. Get a receiver, or two.
More important, forget algorithms, forget projections, forget the fact that a guy looks like a future player even though he couldn't catch in college. Draft football players. Repeat: Draft football players. Make the input of the coaching staff matter more than computer printouts from the second floor. If it takes giving Jackson final say over personnel, then give him final say. Let the football folks make the decisions.
It's not complicated, really.
Line up Cousins at quarterback with Barkley at running back, Gordon, Pryor and a to-be-determined at receiver, and Njoku at tight end with a defense that has shown signs, and 2018 might just be the year of the real turnaround.
Yes, this kind of pie-in-the-sky scenario has been written before. Too many times.
But this scenario might just work.
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Like all college players, there are things that Rosen can improve on. For one, he could stand to get better with the consistency of his accuracy. There are times when Rosen gets into stretches where his accuracy is off and he can miss some throws he should complete. Rosen needs to get faster and speed up the process to scan through his progressions, too. In the pros, he is going to need to move his eyes more and not lock onto his primary read or one of the side of the field so much. The junior also needs to stay healthy in 2017 to avoid having serious durability concerns about him for the NFL.
One of the big problems for Rosen entering his junior year is that he has developed a reputation for having poor intangibles as a bad teammate and leader. Football is an emotional game, and NFL teams want their quarterbacks to be positive team leaders. Whether it is a vocal leader or a quiet lead-by-example type, NFL evaluators and coaches want the quarterback to be a player who teammates gravitate toward with the ability to lead his team in crunch time. Rosen is said to be disliked in the Bruins' locker room, and it sounds like he needs a personality make-over. A scout who has done advance work on the 2018 NFL Draft had this to say about Rosen:
- "Right now I have them rated [Sam] Darnold, [Josh] Allen, [Lamar] Jackson, and then Rosen....Rosen has huge talent and lacks intangibles. He is a prototypical pocket guy. I love his talent, but his own teammates don't like him. Being a prick is one thing, but there aren't many quarterbacks who stick around long-term and are successful that couldn't get along well with their teammates."
Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018jrosen.php#brkX4pbwO0R7jh1X.99 -
Browns' long-term solution? How about Kirk Cousins and Saquon Barkley
BEREA, Ohio -- There are days when the Cleveland Browns seem light years from being competitive.
As ridiculous as it sounds, though, there is a way to look at the Browns as one offseason away. Yes, that's a tired old refrain in Cleveland, where the football team has been one offseason away for ... oh ... 18 years.
But this offseason, the Browns actually are positioned for dramatic work -- if they want to do it, and have the gumption to do it. They even could do it if the owner wants to retain the same front office and coaching staff -- if they are willing to make a tectonic shift in how players are evaluated.
The Browns at present have $61 million in salary-cap space and are projected to top $100 million in cap space for 2018, according to overthecap.com.
That number will shrink, dramatically, but even if it shrinks by only half, the Browns will have a lot of room to work with in free agency.
Their needs are evident: Another quarterback, another running back to replace Isaiah Crowell, who appears headed to free agency, another receiver (or two), a cornerback and a safety.
Five picks in the first two rounds of the draft will address some of those needs.
But free agency can as well.
Here's how:
1) Sign Kirk Cousins, quarterback from the Washington Redskins.
There are concerns about this. Cousins will demand the kind of money that will make the Terminal Tower tilt. And he'd get it from the Browns. Given the state of the team, the Browns can't afford to skimp.
Cousins also might not make free agency. The Redskins may make him their franchise player, again. Cousins also is seeking an organization he can believe in, where he can win without drama. That doesn't seem to fit Cleveland.
The solution?
Money. It talks, and everything else walks in these situations. Players over and over say this and that about free agency, but as a veteran coach once said, "It's always about the money." The Browns showed that last offseason when they spent freely. This offseason, they are positioned to spend enormous amounts of money on a player like Cousins. If he gets to free agency and the possibility exists he'd consider the Browns, then the Browns need to do it. The team is in that state. They simply need to do it.
Why Cousins?
Needed credibility. He has played, he has played well, he has won, and he has been in playoff games. He's second in the league this season in passing yards with 3,038, and he has 19 touchdowns and six interceptions. His rating of 101.1 is seventh. In terms of Total QBR, he's eighth, between Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
In his career, he has completed 65.9 percent of his throws, has 91 touchdowns to 48 interceptions and a rating of 95.1.
He's not Tom Brady. He's not Drew Brees. He may not even be Jared Goff. But he's the best option the Browns have heading into this offseason.
What does this say about DeShone Kizer? Nothing. Kizer is improving. If he's good enough and up to the competition, he'll keep the job.
2) Draft Saquon Barkley, Penn State running back.Isaiah Crowell is more or less gone, though lately with more opportunities, he has been showing the skills he displayed a year ago. If Crowell leaves, the Browns could add a dynamic back in Barkley.
His evaluations will fluctuate as the draft approaches, but the decreased importance of the running back in today's era is silly. Leonard Fournette has helped the Jaguars. Todd Gurley looks good with the Rams. Barkley runs hard, is quick and can catch the ball too. He has averaged more than 5 yards per carry three years in a row.
3) Light a lot of candles that Josh Gordon really is back for good.
Gordon has climbed a mountain to get to this point. His daily struggle now begins. If he's back whole and healthy and even 75 percent of what he was, the Browns have their No. 1 receiver. Time will answer whether he is.
4) Re-sign Terrelle Pryor.
Pryor made a mistake leaving the Browns, a place where he had a spot and was comfortable and where he had a good relationship with the coach. Assuming Hue Jackson is back, Pryor would be more productive in Cleveland than in D.C.
Pryor and Cousins may not have had great success this season, but the two will have a year's experience together, and Pryor is familiar with the Browns' system. The combination of Pryor and Gordon with perhaps Corey Coleman or a drafted player (Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton) in the slot (yes, the slot for Coleman) and David Njoku at tight end ... suddenly the Browns seem to have something in the passing game.
5) Draft the right guys.
Get a cornerback. Get a safety. Get a receiver, or two.
More important, forget algorithms, forget projections, forget the fact that a guy looks like a future player even though he couldn't catch in college. Draft football players. Repeat: Draft football players. Make the input of the coaching staff matter more than computer printouts from the second floor. If it takes giving Jackson final say over personnel, then give him final say. Let the football folks make the decisions.
It's not complicated, really.
Line up Cousins at quarterback with Barkley at running back, Gordon, Pryor and a to-be-determined at receiver, and Njoku at tight end with a defense that has shown signs, and 2018 might just be the year of the real turnaround.
Yes, this kind of pie-in-the-sky scenario has been written before. Too many times.
But this scenario might just work.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I doubt there is enough money to lure Cousins to Cleveland. Someone would have to abduct his wife in a "Taken" scenario where Cousins has a particular set of skills and thus has to make the playoffs in order to save his old lady.
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Cousins will end up with a team that is just lacking a QB to make a decent run (i.e. Jacksonville).
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with all the great talent in this next qb class, if Lee is in the 2018 draft - my two picks for the Browns
are Allen and Lee. Argue stats forever, but stats don't make the case entirely at all.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
Why because ha is Jewish
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Cousins will end up with a team that is just lacking a QB to make a decent run (i.e. Jacksonville).
Cousins will end up with a team that is just lacking a QB to make a decent run (i.e. Jacksonville).
Ultimately I agree with you, but I can't shake the feeling that our team has SOMETHING big planned. Maybe it's something like trading/signing McCarron, or perhaps we're trying for a bigger name like Cousins. The guy I keep coming back to is Alex Smith. He's obviously no spring chicken at 33 years old, but he plays smart and doesn't take TOO many hits. He completes a very high percentage of passes and doesn't turn the ball over (19 tds, 4 picks, 69% completion). Also, the Chiefs are in a huge rut and they drafted a QB in the first round last year in Mahomes. Sooner or later you figure they're going to want to see what they have in him, right? Some people will say, "Why would we want a QB who is currently in the losing streak and would only play for 3-5 years?"
It's a fair point, and it's something I struggle with too. Should we try and put a band-aid on the QB position, or should we stick to trying to find a young QB to stabilize it for a decade? I'd RATHER nail the position for a decade, but let's be honest here...we need to win some games NOW. While none of us here are expecting Josh Gordon to be available next year (anybody with common sense anyways), we'd still have Corey Coleman, Duke Johnson, and David Njoku. Probably the most appealing aspect of Alex's game to me is his accuracy and how he hits receivers IN STRIDE. Someone like that could really help Corey Coleman. When is the last time we got to see Coleman in space with the ball? Never? Christ, all that guy did in college was get yards after catch, and we still haven't found a way to get him in space. Granted he's been hurt most of the time, but still. And hey, maybe I'm wrong about Gordon. Lord knows I WANT to be wrong about him, but he's broken our hearts too many times for anybody to logically depend on him. But man...can you imagine Alex Smith throwing the rock to somebody like HIM?
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I think Cousins is fool's gold... a/k/a made for us?
He's just good enough to contend.
"Vet" has to be a real stretch of the imagination on AJ Mr. Trump..............................er.......... Tour.
Why? Finishing his 3rd year in the league... solid citizen... smart... hard-working... Hue would know whether his game prep is the example-worthy stuff.
Not saying he jumps to the top of the list, just an addition. But he does violate my "still sees himself as a starter" criteria.
I think Cousins is fool's gold... a/k/a made for us?
He's just good enough to contend.
Why? Finishing his 3rd year in the league... solid citizen... smart... hard-working... Hue would know whether his game prep is the example-worthy stuff.
Not saying he jumps to the top of the list, just an addition. But he does violate my "still sees himself as a starter" criteria.
Agreed on Cousins. Will want way too much $$$, and will want to go to a team where he can win immediately.
McCarron? I don't trust the QB whisperer anymore.
I'm a lil off today...
Also just added Eli to the vet mix... but as FA. There are $45mm reasons to not trade for him.
And he's old. A much higher paid McCown while Rosen sits for a year?
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I love how people wail ceaselessly about us trading out of goff and wentz. Now want us trade out of rosen/darnold/allen etc. All who at this point of their careers faced much tougher opponents than wentz did.
Look perhaps personal issues crop up with rosen. But as of right now that kids the clear eye test winner. I pointed out a play he made against the usc game where he exhibited poise in the face of a free charging pass rusher that i honestly cant remember seeing from anyone, especially in college. Freezing the rusher with a pump fake aimed directly at him allowing an underneath crossing route to come free for a first down......i mean damn. Its easy to get googly eyed by arm talent....weedon.....but that kind of pocket poise is almost more important
I love how people wail ceaselessly about us trading out of goff and wentz. Now want us trade out of rosen/darnold/allen etc. All who at this point of their careers faced much tougher opponents than wentz did.
Look perhaps personal issues crop up with rosen. But as of right now that kids the clear eye test winner. I pointed out a play he made against the usc game where he exhibited poise in the face of a free charging pass rusher that i honestly cant remember seeing from anyone, especially in college. Freezing the rusher with a pump fake aimed directly at him allowing an underneath crossing route to come free for a first down......i mean damn. Its easy to get googly eyed by arm talent....weedon.....but that kind of pocket poise is almost more important
I agree about Rosen. Mighty impressive. Bruins bowl eligible.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
Cal is hanging on preseason reports. Finally got around to watching the Wyoming- AF game. Allen looked OK, best I've seen out of him - until he got hurt. MHO? He's no Rosen or Mayfield though.
FWIW, latest Walter Football mock has us taking Rosen #1 overall, Allen lasts until late first round.
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I haven't seen a QB who goes thru his progressions faster.
Cal go watch some more instead of taking some yahoo's word for it. Rosen is nfl ready in terms of progressions and quick release with accuracy. And I certainly would not believe some evaluator that thinks Allen comes anywhere near him. It's night and day and not even close.
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I think Cousins is fool's gold... a/k/a made for us?
He's just good enough to contend.
Why? Finishing his 3rd year in the league... solid citizen... smart... hard-working... Hue would know whether his game prep is the example-worthy stuff.
Not saying he jumps to the top of the list, just an addition. But he does violate my "still sees himself as a starter" criteria.
Agreed on Cousins. Will want way too much $$$, and will want to go to a team where he can win immediately.
McCarron? I don't trust the QB whisperer anymore.
I'm a lil off today...
Also just added Eli to the vet mix... but as FA. There are $45mm reasons to not trade for him.
And he's old. A much higher paid McCown while Rosen sits for a year?
Agreed on Cousins. Will want way too much $$$, and will want to go to a team where he can win immediately.
McCarron? I don't trust the QB whisperer anymore.
And he's old. A much higher paid McCown while Rosen sits for a year?
Well, I did say there are 45mm reasons to not sign Eli.
As for AJ and Hue's judgement... not really a matter of his playing potential... his ceiling. In a "vet" you are primarily looking for a good example of how to prep for a game and a guy that can give you a couple good starts if needed. The latter was shown by AJ a couple years ago during a Bengals stretch run with playoff implications. The former is something Hue should have first hand knowledge of... no "projectiing" needed.
Any more contribution from a vet backup is a bonus... a bonus whose importance diminishes the more you are focused on developing your future QB.
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I love how people wail ceaselessly about us trading out of goff and wentz. Now want us trade out of rosen/darnold/allen etc. All who at this point of their careers faced much tougher opponents than wentz did.
Look perhaps personal issues crop up with rosen. But as of right now that kids the clear eye test winner. I pointed out a play he made against the usc game where he exhibited poise in the face of a free charging pass rusher that i honestly cant remember seeing from anyone, especially in college. Freezing the rusher with a pump fake aimed directly at him allowing an underneath crossing route to come free for a first down......i mean damn. Its easy to get googly eyed by arm talent....weedon.....but that kind of pocket poise is almost more important
I agree about Rosen. Mighty impressive. Bruins bowl eligible.
So you want to disregard stats when discussing Allen's faults? Alright then.
Let's discuss his horrible mechanics and the massive jump from the poor competition he mostly faced to the NFL then.
And trust me cal, a lot of us really know why you don't like Rosen.
Cal is hanging on preseason reports. Finally got around to watching the Wyoming- AF game. Allen looked OK, best I've seen out of him - until he got hurt. MHO? He's no Rosen or Mayfield though.
FWIW, latest Walter Football mock has us taking Rosen #1 overall, Allen lasts until late first round.
I agree about Rosen. Mighty impressive. Bruins bowl eligible.
Cal is hanging on preseason reports. Finally got around to watching the Wyoming- AF game. Allen looked OK, best I've seen out of him - until he got hurt. MHO? He's no Rosen or Mayfield though.
FWIW, latest Walter Football mock has us taking Rosen #1 overall, Allen lasts until late first round.
Rosen is a prick. He is Kaepernick II. His own teammates don't like him. He's a whiner. And per Walter football,
he needs to learn to quicken his progression reads. He is a MESS off the field. The Browns will not draft him.
One anonymous AFC scouting director isn’t too keen on Rosen.
“I think all three (this year) are bottom 10 starters, maybe Mahomes with his upside creeps in to the bottom 15,” he told King. “The kid from USC has a chance; Rosen has a ton of ability but tons of issues, like dedication, to work through. And the Wyoming kid is a big, talented player. It’s a good group. It should be much better than this group.”
A second executive, also from the AFC, has a similar take.
• Rosen: “He’s the one I know the best—he’s got size, athletic tools, velocity. He’s just a mess off the field and he’s coming off the injury. He needs to grow up, but the talent is off the charts.”
The phrases “tons of issues” and “a mess off the field” suggest a growing narrative. It’s always difficult to assess the validity of these claims without knowing what they are based on or the availability of any specifics. We do know that Rosen had a hot tub in his dorm, but had to remove it. He cares not for university housing code, apparently.
And yet Rosen has also showed signs of immaturity—two years ago he and some friends rearranged a neighbor’s lawn ornaments in sexually suggestive positions—and just plain poor judgment. Since arriving at UCLA he has set off a social media firestorm over presidential politics, deleted at least one provocative Instagram post and been forced to apologize to the school. The coach is constantly asking Rosen whom he wants to be: Peyton Manning or Johnny Manziel?
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Rosen is a party boy hippo's butt. Who wants a qb that ends up getting suspended every so often in the NFL?
Preseason reports - show him to be a mess off the field. He's worse than JM, and
worse than Mayfield, and I wouldn't draft Mayfield either. Character, love for the game,
intangibles matter. and Rosen fails the grade.
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I don't see love of the game with rosen - just a physically gifted punk with a fat mouth.
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA (34 points, 3 first-place votes, 8 ballots): The Bruins are 3-3, but it’s hard to pin that on Rosen. He’s played from behind a bunch and still has the best completion percentage of his career (64.2) while throwing for 2,354 yards and 17 touchdowns through six games. That said, he’s been a little sloppy with the ball at times.
3. Josh Allen, Wyoming (23 points, 1 first-place vote, 8 ballots): Allen’s numbers are mediocre and his team is 4-2. But there’s youth all around him and scouts trust the talent. One voter put him first, and another put him in front of Rosen.
I'd draft Faulk before rosen. you want stats... look at his passing percentage. But it seems to me, Faulk and Allen love the game.
rosen loves only himself.
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I don't see love of the game with rosen - just a physically gifted punk with a fat mouth.
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA (34 points, 3 first-place votes, 8 ballots): The Bruins are 3-3, but it’s hard to pin that on Rosen. He’s played from behind a bunch and still has the best completion percentage of his career (64.2) while throwing for 2,354 yards and 17 touchdowns through six games. That said, he’s been a little sloppy with the ball at times.
3. Josh Allen, Wyoming (23 points, 1 first-place vote, 8 ballots): Allen’s numbers are mediocre and his team is 4-2. But there’s youth all around him and scouts trust the talent. One voter put him first, and another put him in front of Rosen.
I'd draft Faulk before rosen. you want stats... look at his passing percentage. But it seems to me, Faulk and Allen love the game.
rosen loves only himself.
I don't see love of the game with rosen - just a physically gifted punk with a fat mouth.
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA (34 points, 3 first-place votes, 8 ballots): The Bruins are 3-3, but it’s hard to pin that on Rosen. He’s played from behind a bunch and still has the best completion percentage of his career (64.2) while throwing for 2,354 yards and 17 touchdowns through six games. That said, he’s been a little sloppy with the ball at times.
3. Josh Allen, Wyoming (23 points, 1 first-place vote, 8 ballots): Allen’s numbers are mediocre and his team is 4-2. But there’s youth all around him and scouts trust the talent. One voter put him first, and another put him in front of Rosen.
I'd draft Faulk before rosen. you want stats... look at his passing percentage. But it seems to me, Faulk and Allen love the game.
rosen loves only himself.
Who was #1 on this list you pasted?
Let me guess: Mason Rudolph.
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