Should we draft a quarterback 1st overall?
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I'm sensing a 2016/2017 evaluation.
Cal is behind the times- he's also using preseason evaluations of Rosen. Probably didn't watch JR play USC or Cal either. FWIW, I've seen Rosen make passes Kizer can only dream about making.
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Rosen ain't stayin'... not with the Chipster coming to town.
Plus Darnold (again) refuted all reports of him saying he'd stay in to avoid us... but I think he stays in. Seems to have a love of college ala Leinart.
Allen? Haven't seen enough to know enough to care at this point.
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Cal is behind the times- he's also using preseason evaluations of Rosen. Probably didn't watch JR play USC or Cal either. FWIW, I've seen Rosen make passes Kizer can only dream about making.
nopie. I did watch ucla vs socal. rosen's qb skills are impressive. but it ends there. he's a jackwad prick to his teammates,
even had to get a girlfriend however temporary from ANOTHER SCHOOL. seriously, he's a jerk. I'm not drafting him if I was drafting.
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Rosen ain't stayin'... not with the Chipster coming to town.
Plus Darnold (again) refuted all reports of him saying he'd stay in to avoid us... but I think he stays in. Seems to have a love of college ala Leinart.
Allen? Haven't seen enough to know enough to care at this point.
Rosen ain't stayin'... not with the Chipster coming to town.
Plus Darnold (again) refuted all reports of him saying he'd stay in to avoid us... but I think he stays in. Seems to have a love of college ala Leinart.
Allen? Haven't seen enough to know enough to care at this point.
You'll get to see Allen one more time in a bowl game Tour. I've watched 4 of Allen's games (every pass) so far. Me and Ag have the same opinion, just no. To do a Ghoolie impression- he's a white Deshone Kizer- and yeah, I know one of Kizer's parents is white. The only game I've seen where Allen looked 1\2 decent was against a sub-talented Air Force team- and then he got hurt in it, to top it off.....
Noted that when the competition heats up, Josh cools off. Anyone can look great against Gardner Webb (I bet Cal a root Beer if he could tell me what state that school is in without looking) against Iowa or Boise State? Not so much. And that's worlds below any scrub team in the NFL- like the Browns.
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Cal is behind the times- he's also using preseason evaluations of Rosen. Probably didn't watch JR play USC or Cal either. FWIW, I've seen Rosen make passes Kizer can only dream about making.
nopie. I did watch ucla vs socal. rosen's qb skills are impressive. but it ends there. he's a jackwad prick to his teammates,
even had to get a girlfriend however temporary from ANOTHER SCHOOL. seriously, he's a jerk. I'm not drafting him if I was drafting.
nopie. I did watch ucla vs socal. rosen's qb skills are impressive. but it ends there. he's a jackwad prick to his teammates,
even had to get a girlfriend however temporary from ANOTHER SCHOOL. seriously, he's a jerk. I'm not drafting him if I was drafting.
Fortunately, you're not doing the drafting- and neither am I.
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I don't see love of the game with rosen - just a physically gifted punk with a fat mouth.
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA (34 points, 3 first-place votes, 8 ballots): The Bruins are 3-3, but it’s hard to pin that on Rosen. He’s played from behind a bunch and still has the best completion percentage of his career (64.2) while throwing for 2,354 yards and 17 touchdowns through six games. That said, he’s been a little sloppy with the ball at times.
3. Josh Allen, Wyoming (23 points, 1 first-place vote, 8 ballots): Allen’s numbers are mediocre and his team is 4-2. But there’s youth all around him and scouts trust the talent. One voter put him first, and another put him in front of Rosen.
I'd draft Faulk before rosen. you want stats... look at his passing percentage. But it seems to me, Faulk and Allen love the game.
rosen loves only himself.
Who was #1 on this list you pasted?
Let me guess: Mason Rudolph.
Who was #1 on this list you pasted?
Let me guess: Mason Rudolph.
That’s why I figured, here at the midway point of college football’s regular season, the time was right to poll experienced NFL evaluators (I got eight of them on the panel) who’ve watched these quarterbacks on where they stand now. The concept here is easy: Rank them 1-5, with five points for first place, four for second, and so on. These are the results from Monday’s polling:
1. Sam Darnold, USC (35 points, 4 first-place votes, appeared on all 8 ballots): Darnold’s been uneven this year, without question, having already matched his interception total from last year. But the feeling I’ve gotten is that scouts will cut him some slack because of the offensive line issues the Trojans are having. The biggest criticism is that he’s trying to do too much, not unlike what Jameis Winston his final year at Florida State
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Who was #1 on this list you pasted?
Let me guess: Mason Rudolph.
That’s why I figured, here at the midway point of college football’s regular season, the time was right to poll experienced NFL evaluators (I got eight of them on the panel) who’ve watched these quarterbacks on where they stand now. The concept here is easy: Rank them 1-5, with five points for first place, four for second, and so on. These are the results from Monday’s polling:
1. Sam Darnold, USC (35 points, 4 first-place votes, appeared on all 8 ballots): Darnold’s been uneven this year, without question, having already matched his interception total from last year. But the feeling I’ve gotten is that scouts will cut him some slack because of the offensive line issues the Trojans are having. The biggest criticism is that he’s trying to do too much, not unlike what Jameis Winston his final year at Florida State
That’s why I figured, here at the midway point of college football’s regular season, the time was right to poll experienced NFL evaluators (I got eight of them on the panel) who’ve watched these quarterbacks on where they stand now. The concept here is easy: Rank them 1-5, with five points for first place, four for second, and so on. These are the results from Monday’s polling:
1. Sam Darnold, USC (35 points, 4 first-place votes, appeared on all 8 ballots): Darnold’s been uneven this year, without question, having already matched his interception total from last year. But the feeling I’ve gotten is that scouts will cut him some slack because of the offensive line issues the Trojans are having. The biggest criticism is that he’s trying to do too much, not unlike what Jameis Winston his final year at Florida State
You have to know I was on the "Suck for Sam" train, until Mark sort of derailed it saying he's probably not going to declare... And if it will make you happy- I'd rather have Allen than Lamar Jackson.
Hoorta Ranking 11\30 (assuming they all declare)
1A: Darnold 1B rosen
2: Mayfield
3: Allen
4: Rudolph
5: Faulk
6: Jackson
For your reading enjoyment heeerrrsss Walter.... http://walterfootball.com/draft2018QB.php
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trouble is, those rankings don't include character, love of the game, work ethic,
leadership and intangibles. by many reports, rosen is a bootywhole, a real prick to his
'teammates. Therefore, he really isn't any more the best qb in this class than Ryan Leaf was.
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trouble is, those rankings don't include character, love of the game, work ethic,
leadership and intangibles. by many reports, rosen is a bootywhole, a real prick to his
'teammates. Therefore, he really isn't any more the best qb in this class than Ryan Leaf was.
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It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
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It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
Ah, I see the light now. & BTW, just because you're a Republican doesn't mean you have to like Trump either- at all. Plenty of us #Never Trump Republicans out there. I'll leave the politics at that.
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It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
Ah, I see the light now. & BTW, just because you're a Republican doesn't mean you have to like Trump either- at all. Plenty of us #Never Trump Republicans out there. I'll leave the politics at that.
Ah, I see the light now. & BTW, just because you're a Republican doesn't mean you have to like Trump either- at all. Plenty of us #Never Trump Republicans out there. I'll leave the politics at that.
Absolutely hoorta.
People are going to like who they like, and dislike who they don't. All I'm asking is to be honest and upfront about it.
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Rosen is an outspoken trump critic? Thats news to me, anyone have a link? If its true, u wonder why he diesnt get along with his teammates
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It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
It's so painfully obvious why cal has this raging hard-on for Rosen, waste a minute of your life by venturing over to the political forum to see for yourself. I can visualize him with his red MAGA hat angrily typing his "ROSEN IS A DBAG LIKE KAEPERNICK" nonsense.
Rosen could be a world-class jerk, in fact until I find out more about him I'm still hesitant to go all-in on the Rosen Bandwagon, but I find it interesting how much time cal rails on about Rosen (an outspoken opponent of Trump) but rarely brings up the sizable personality questions about Baker Mayfield, who gets as much love on this board as a potential Browns pick as Rosen does at this point.
A. I only found out about that this morning when I got a link .
B. The reports are that rosen IS world class prick.
C. You are stupid - I have complained about Mayfield's lack of character bigtime on this board.
D. Have a nice day.
oh, btw -
https://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/nfl-scout-josh-rosen-another-version-colin-kaepernick/
NFL scout: Josh Rosen ‘another version of Colin Kaepernick’
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Should we draft a quarterback 1st overall?
calfoxwc replied to Louisville Slugger's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...and worse thanMayfield , and I wouldn't draftMayfield either. Character, love for the game, intangibles matter. and Rosen fails the grade. -
Should we draft a quarterback 1st overall?calfoxwc replied to Louisville Slugger's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
CampMayfield
calfoxwc replied to Adoug319's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...just saw thatMayfield has been stripped of his captionship of the team, and won't start the next game. Who knows, maybe he gets into the pros and does great, and grows up into a classy qb in the NFL. or not. The Browns already have another egg on their face with the JM experiment.....
CampMayfieldcalfoxwc replied to Adoug319's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...Mayfield is popular bigtime like JM. He parties like JM. Wins games and has great stats like JM. And his behavior is sometimes very, very erratic. I personally don't want a qb that everybody hates, a qb that will eventually, maybe, encourage kids in sports to act out stupidly, etc....
Darnold vs rosencalfoxwc replied to Clevfan4life's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...Rosen andmayfield can have a johnny manziel actlike contest...mayfield is ahead because of the trouble with booze.November 19 99 replies
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calfoxwc replied to Adoug319's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...As far as your lovefest withMayfield 's stats - take off your blinders.Mayfield has quite a cast of very good or excellent players around him. And,Mayfield didn't just get a DUI. He also left the scene of an accident, a FELONY. https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-baker-m...November 19 168 replies
CampMayfieldcalfoxwc replied to Adoug319's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...andMayfield . He's very talented, but six foot tall, spread offense, and having faced a felony and misdemeanors after driving drunk at 3 AM in the morning, and now the crotch grabbing... no thanks. I think he's a rich alcoholic JM in the pros.Allen looks a lot better to me all the time.November 19 168 replies
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You've produced five instances of you talking about Mayfield, four of which were on the same thread. Trust me, the amount of pro-Allen/anti-Rosen posts DWARF these handful of Mayfield posts. You've pretty much become PoG-like in your obsession with posting about your undying love of Allen, and your hatred of Rosen.
And like I've said before, and in fact BEFORE you started your tireless ripping of Rosen, his personality has been a topic of conversation for a while. In fact, I read something this summer about Rosen being compared personality-wise to Manziel. Trust me, this concerns me too...
On-the-field, though, Rosen is laughably ahead of Allen.
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Rosen is an outspoken trump critic? Thats news to me, anyone have a link? If its true, u wonder why he diesnt get along with his teammates
Rosen is an outspoken trump critic? Thats news to me, anyone have a link? If its true, u wonder why he diesnt get along with his teammates
I honestly get the impression that Rosen is very similar to Indians pitcher Trevor Bauer (despite polar opposite political views) - another kid from UCLA who is very opinionated, has a reputation as "difficult to coach", and does not seem to be one of those players super popular in the clubhouse at times.
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