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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tacosman said:

    mayfield doesn't have the type of arm talent you look for as a high first round draft pick

    Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

    All Big 12 QBs are suspect in my book. They put up video game numbers and then never amount to much in the pros.

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      @hoorta said:

      Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

      All Big 12 QBs are suspect in my book. They put up video game numbers and then never amount to much in the pros.

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      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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      @logicisforsquares said:

      All Big 12 QBs are suspect in my book. They put up video game numbers and then never amount to much in the pros.

      Duly noted. Baker just might have the Heisman Curse working against him on top of it. But as I pointed out in another thread- in the same vein (since Joe Montana) all Notre Dame QBs are equally suspect.  🙂 

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        @tacosman said:

        mayfield doesn't have the type of arm talent you look for as a high first round draft pick

        Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

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        @hoorta said:

        Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

        a lot of college guys with a clean pocket and room to step up can throw a ball 50 yards on a go.....that doesnt neccessarily make an nfl arm

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          R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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          Kessler threw 50 yard bombs on the regular at usc.... 

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          • PoeticGP PoeticG

            Baker Mayfield is a good player.

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            @poeticg said:

            Baker Mayfield is a good player.

            Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

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              GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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              You guys are stupid. The Browns will win out now that Sackashitsi is gone.

              The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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                stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

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                • tiamat63T tiamat63

                  @poeticg said:

                  Baker Mayfield is a good player.

                  Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

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                  NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

                  LOL!!!!

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                  • stillmotionS stillmotion

                    Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @stillmotion said:

                    Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

                    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

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                      L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                      It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

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                        It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

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                        @londonbrown said:

                        It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

                        sashi was going to take a qb #1 and so will we now.

                        For all the analytics talk, sashi sure did a lot of non-analytics things

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                        • L LondonBrown

                          It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

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                          @londonbrown said:

                          It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

                          sashi was going to take a qb #1 and so will we now.

                          For all the analytics talk, sashi sure did a lot of non-analytics things

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                            It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

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                            @londonbrown said:

                            It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

                            So salty.

                            Also, Dorsey would likely come away with something for it.

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                            • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                              @stillmotion said:

                              Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

                              Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

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                              stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

                              A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

                                A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                @stillmotion said:

                                A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

                                I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  Pretty sure they always talk up how great Browns olines are as the QBs are on the IR.

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                                    @stillmotion said:

                                    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

                                    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

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                                    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

                                    Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

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                                      @stillmotion said:

                                      Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

                                      Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

                                      Here are the QBs that won the Heisman in the last 30 years or so.   

                                      Lamar Jackson

                                      Marcus Mariota

                                      Jameis Winston

                                      Johnny Manziel

                                      Robert Griffin

                                      Cam Newton

                                      Sam Bradford

                                      Tim Tebow

                                      Troy Smith

                                      Matt Leinert

                                      Jason White

                                      Carson Palmer

                                      Eric Crouch

                                      Chris Weinke

                                      Danny Wuerffel

                                      Charlie Ward

                                      Gino Torretta

                                      Ty Detmer

                                      Andre Ware

                                      Vinny Testaverde.

                                      So...who out of these has been any good as a pro QB?

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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

                                        Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        @stillmotion said:

                                        Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

                                        Like his skills but his garbage personality could be the hold up.

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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

                                          A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

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                                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @stillmotion said:

                                          A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

                                          Actually that would be you.  I've asked for your assessment beyond "HEISMAN, STATS, WINNER, LEADER"... still has yet to happen.

                                          Also PFF grades aren't indicative of translatable NFL skill.   Those geeks are cool but some things can't be quantified by numbers. 

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